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amother
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Yesterday at 2:16 pm
amother Cornsilk wrote: | Do you have access to Lakewood Job Chats?
Did you connect with?
PCS
IZN
Careerly
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I am on so many chats. And every time I see something that’s remotely applicable I send my resume.
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amother
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Yesterday at 2:20 pm
Sorry but just because you are older does not mean you should earn more. That is age discrimination and illegal.
You might have had some work experience before but if it is a different field or location you have to be realistic. Not having a degree limits you.
I also don't see a lot of specifics about skills.
Also- why should they pay you, at higher rates, than someone young? Especially if they have to train both of you?
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amother
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Yesterday at 2:22 pm
amother OP wrote: | I am on so many chats. And every time I see something that’s remotely applicable I send my resume. |
If you do really have solid experience in a specific field (that you don’t want to mention here) and you’re looking for a $70k type job then you should be focusing primarily on recruiting agencies. They can help find a job for you.
Also, you keep saying “you can do anything” like it’s a plus, but it’s not. The way to get hired is to tailor your resume to the specific job you are applying for. A $70k job in medical billing is going to look very different than a $70k job in retail or a $70k job in bookkeeping. You need to be more specific in your search process.
Also, no one is going to pay you more simply because of your age. If you can show your potential employer you have experience in the specific field they are looking to hire in, then make sure you do. Otherwise, vague “experience” isn’t going to get you anywhere.
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Molly Weasley
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Yesterday at 2:24 pm
amother Crocus wrote: | Sorry but just because you are older does not mean you should earn more. That is age discrimination and illegal. |
She's not saying she should earn more because she's older, she's saying she should earn more because she has more General work experience.
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amother
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Yesterday at 2:30 pm
Molly Weasley wrote: | She's not saying she should earn more because she's older, she's saying she should earn more because she has more General work experience. |
But that’s my point, employers don’t care very much about general work experience, they care about experience and skills in the specific position they are hiring for. Simply having 20 years of general experience isn’t really a plus. It sounds like OP wants to do an entry or slightly above entry level type job but for a lot more money than a “seminary girl” simply because she has more work experience. But the point is that if she wants to get paid more she needs to qualify for a mid+ level job. She’s not gonna get a higher salary doing the same job a less experienced person is doing simply because she has more experience. General experience doesn’t really provide value to the employer in and of itself.
And in order to get a mid+ level type job she needs to do a much better job marketing herself to employers and recruitment firms. She’s not being specific enough. Being vague is your enemy when it comes to job searching! Let’s assume she really does have enough experience in 2 or 3 different fields to qualify her for a mid+ level job. She needs to make different resumes for each of those fields. And approach recruiters and tell them specifically which 2-3 fields she qualifies for a $70k+ salary in.
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amother
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Yesterday at 2:31 pm
Bring older is actually a plus in the lkwd job market right now.
A lot of employers are frustrated by flighty unreliable entitled new employees. They want time off constantly. Go on vacation on a whim. Quit for the summer unexpectedly.
Right now reliability is a big selling point for many frustrated employers.
I’d work in selling that as well. Also if you have management experience good leadership and are confident and thorough I’d use those all as selling points. And focus on your specific skills. Not just ‘anything’.
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amother
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Yesterday at 2:35 pm
amother Chicory wrote: | But that’s my point, employers don’t care very much about general work experience, they care about experience and skills in the specific position they are hiring for. Simply having 20 years of general experience isn’t really a plus. It sounds like OP wants to do an entry or slightly above entry level type job but for a lot more money than a “seminary girl” simply because she has more work experience. But the point is that if she wants to get paid more she needs to qualify for a mid+ level job. She’s not gonna get a higher salary doing the same job a less experienced person is doing simply because she has more experience. General experience doesn’t really provide value to the employer in and of itself.
And in order to get a mid+ level type job she needs to do a much better job marketing herself to employers and recruitment firms. She’s not being specific enough. Being vague is your enemy when it comes to job searching! Let’s assume she really does have enough experience in 2 or 3 different fields to qualify her for a mid+ level job. She needs to make different resumes for each of those fields. And approach recruiters and tell them specifically which 2-3 fields she qualifies for a $70k+ salary in. |
Exactly. Being able to work retail and office and X and Y and Z makes it sound like I had 1 year in each and no real experience in any one area. Working all over the place doesn't tell an employer anything. I want to see education (here none) and specific experience that will help me and my specific company.
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amother
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Yesterday at 2:51 pm
amother Scarlet wrote: | Bring older is actually a plus in the lkwd job market right now.
A lot of employers are frustrated by flighty unreliable entitled new employees. They want time off constantly. Go on vacation on a whim. Quit for the summer unexpectedly.
Right now reliability is a big selling point for many frustrated employers.
I’d work in selling that as well. Also if you have management experience good leadership and are confident and thorough I’d use those all as selling points. And focus on your specific skills. Not just ‘anything’. |
This. Op I was in a similar situation when I was looking for a job. I'm very experienced in many different fields, but I don't have any schooling for anything. I'm quick to learn new programs and I'm very easy to work with. I always get compliments from coworkers and clients. I've been told many times that any employer would be lucky to get me. But then I met with recruiters who explained to me that because I don't have a specific skill set, I'm less desirable.
I was looking during a time when I could get interviews. I played up the fact that I'm reliable, I hardly ever have to take off work, my kids are not little so I don't have to constantly take off work for sick kids and performances. I can work erev shabbos and Yom Tov, and chol hamoed. That is what got me my job. My boss was burned out from the young girls who were always on maternity leave or out because of their little kids. He was desperate for someone like me who he could rely on. Bh it worked out well for both of us.
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amother
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Yesterday at 2:56 pm
amother Olive wrote: | This. Op I was in a similar situation when I was looking for a job. I'm very experienced in many different fields, but I don't have any schooling for anything. I'm quick to learn new programs and I'm very easy to work with. I always get compliments from coworkers and clients. I've been told many times that any employer would be lucky to get me. But then I met with recruiters who explained to me that because I don't have a specific skill set, I'm less desirable.
I was looking during a time when I could get interviews. I played up the fact that I'm reliable, I hardly ever have to take off work, my kids are not little so I don't have to constantly take off work for sick kids and performances. I can work erev shabbos and Yom Tov, and chol hamoed. That is what got me my job. My boss was burned out from the young girls who were always on maternity leave or out because of their little kids. He was desperate for someone like me who he could rely on. Bh it worked out well for both of us. |
Thank you for this. I am going to rework my resume and definitely up play the fact that I can work more hours and be reliable. I don’t have little kids at home so won’t have to take off every other day for them.
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Lightcoral
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Yesterday at 3:03 pm
It's worth trying on non Jewish sites too. I was hired that way (no degree) and they were extremely respectful of my religion.
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itsokay
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Yesterday at 3:06 pm
amother OP wrote: | Thank you for this. I am going to rework my resume and definitely up play the fact that I can work more hours and be reliable. I don’t have little kids at home so won’t have to take off every other day for them. |
Good luck!! I hope you find something great really soon! Think if you have anyone IRL who can review your resume for you after you redo it and provide feedback, that could also be helpful
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meyerlemon44
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Yesterday at 3:19 pm
OP, I wish you the best of luck. Don’t be afraid to take something lower paid in the meantime, as long as it doesn’t pay so little you’re losing money, obviously.
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amother
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Yesterday at 3:37 pm
amother OP wrote: | Thank you for this. I am going to rework my resume and definitely up play the fact that I can work more hours and be reliable. I don’t have little kids at home so won’t have to take off every other day for them. |
Good luck. I hope you find something very soon.
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amother
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Yesterday at 3:51 pm
amother OP wrote: | Thank you for this. I am going to rework my resume and definitely up play the fact that I can work more hours and be reliable. I don’t have little kids at home so won’t have to take off every other day for them. | You should also meet with Faigy Ort at PCS, she can help you figure out how to market yourself more specifically.
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