Any Communities Where Houses Have Acreage?

amother

Daphne

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 2:48 pm

Glitterveil wrote:

I don't have any advice on this topic but I feel like I'm in the same boat! My husband and I would love to start a homestead someday and as much as he may enjoy living in the middle of nowhere I feel like having some infrastructure is important. If only we could start a community in Montanna or Wyoming LOL

Go for it. Contact the shluchim and see how you can work with them. Find five or ten imamother families and start looking for homes in the same general area as the shluchim, and looking for jobs. When you move you can start a homeschool coop and then register as a school.

Come back and let us know how it worked. If you are successful and near a hospital/ good healthcare with specialists, and there is accessible health insurance in that state, we might just join you. (We have kids who need specialists, and special ed. So we are staying put for now.)

amother

Cyclamen ↓

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 2:57 pm

Minnie0mouse wrote:

Not without a shul and basic infrastructure. I just don’t see myself being able to live a frum lifestyle without those basics, or wha ti would consider basics.

If all u need is very very basic infrastructure - upstate NY / southfallsburg/monticello/bethel has that. As in shuls, mikvah, basic kosher food.

Not really a community everything is very chassidish/ ultra yeshvish/ weekenders/very old traditional. No schools really - but if my kids where grown, I think I would homestead there.

Housing on land is still affordable - you could even just buy a decent acreage and put a mobile home on it.

If you want a like minded community - the only place to find that lifestyle is in certain yishuvim in israel.
But because all israeli real estate is SOOO expensive, the only way to do it affordable is to do it on an illegal hilltop settlement and hope it gets legalized eventually, but that is a specific kind of lifestyle and worldview, and also not very safe....

amother

↑ Cyclamen ↓

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 3:05 pm

But back to the lakewood area - I searched and found these in howell, and there are shuls in kinda walking distance. Still expensive, but not for so much acrage in such a prime area.

Also living close to a vibrant community means you can probably make you homestead somewhat profitable - selling raw milk/ organic eggs, petting zoo - Greater Lakewood is big enough to have a market for that kind of thing

https://www.zillow.com/homedet.....zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedet.....zpid/

amother

Honeysuckle

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 3:08 pm

everything you described about the community fits with houston.

its is really hot there.

and not sure if theres huge properties around.

the actual community is amazing!

amother

Chambray

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 3:12 pm

The St Louis community in University City MO has some houses that have large yards. Not sure about the exact size, but some families do have chickens and fairly large vegetable gardens

amother

Tealblue

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 4:20 pm

amother Cyclamen wrote:

🤔
Not sure how this is a good idea at all.

↑ Hashem_Yaazor

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 4:21 pm

amother Bronze wrote:

There are many blocks with historical houses. Just know what you’re getting yourself into if you buy a historical house…
Bancroft also has some houses with lots of land. Bancroft between cross country and park heights was built for Jews when they weren’t allowed to live in other parts of Baltimore. So some of those houses are grand houses. Others are smaller.

I don't think they're on acres of land each. I have a close relative there and my son's yeshiva is there too...

amother

↑ Red

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 4:41 pm

Minnie0mouse wrote:

Not without a shul and basic infrastructure. I just don’t see myself being able to live a frum lifestyle without those basics, or wha ti would consider basics.

he wants to have a shul, mikvah, store...... just not a rabbi because he's been burnt too many times... but yeah not for you op. it was more directed to the person who was talking about the future. right now we live in a community because we have kids Wink

amother

↑ Amaranthus

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 5:10 pm

Hashem_Yaazor wrote:

I don't think they're on acres of land each. I have a close relative there and my son's yeshiva is there too...

we looked at a Bancroft property a while back and the plot of land it was on was 1.5 acres.
I think if acreage is a priority and you have patience, you might find something in Baltimore. Not a huge number of those sorts of properties but they do exist I think. Also if you don't mind venturing out a bit like to Mount Washington etc. Might be worth asking a real estate agent to keep an eye out for you.

amother

↑ Cadetblue

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 5:14 pm

amother Cyclamen wrote:

There is a jewish farm in Howell on Kent rd.
There is also Dr suss who n Jackson.
Dr Suss runs a summer camp
And s schools visit during the year.

amother

Lightyellow

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 5:16 pm

amother Cyclamen wrote:

Selling raw milk is illegal in NJ.

amother

Lemon

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 5:28 pm

I spent my summers as a teen in Cincinnati and always wished I could move there!
I thought of it like living in the country but with a close community. People there are all really nice. Beautiful houses and yards, slow-paced living.

amother

Tanzanite

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 5:53 pm

Philly has a beautiful neighborhood called Overbrook Farms with very large old historic homes with lots of land. It’s not specifically a frum or Jewish area but extremely close to Bala Cynwyd and Wynnewood/Overbrook Park. Mainly Chabad living in this neighborhood now but there are other Shuls in walking distance and within the eruv. Great schools, mikveh, laid back.

BusyBoys ↓

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 6:02 pm

amother Cyclamen wrote:

Was just coming on here to suggest the Catskills area.

There is a Jewish family named Goldschein who lives in liberty , NY on acres and acres who turned it into a homestead that is open to the public in the summer months.

Infrastructure albeit very basic is already in place.

amother

↑ Cyclamen ↓

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 6:17 pm

amother Tealblue wrote:

🤔
Not sure how this is a good idea at all.

Agree - people who live like this do it because of ideological reasons of creating jewish presence on the land so that the PA doesnt quietly take it over. Not for financial reasons - but the communties are very much the vibe the op described and tend to be homesteading types.

Purchasing large acreage in Israel is nearly impossible, but if you have money there a multiple religious agricultural yishuvim.

There is talk of the government trying to resettle the Gaza envelope with agricultural settlements and there will be probably be similar incentives to get people to go to the parts of the north that have been evacuated eventually, because a large percentage of the current residents refuse to go back.

amother

↑ Cyclamen

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 6:18 pm

amother Lightyellow wrote:

Selling raw milk is illegal in NJ.

I've purchased it in NJ- and I know lots of people who do. Pretty sure its illegal commercially, but there are lots of people like me who would call a farm and come up with a set up to by raw milk

amother

Oleander

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 6:57 pm

In and around the general Monsey area; New City, Haverstraw etc. Obviously you want privacy but not too far out from amenities. The problem always comes a few years down the line when what was a quiet rural community gets built up by developers and the nice rustic woodland become a new development / housing estate.
Upstate NY also has space - but you may not get any amenities.

GLUE

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 6:58 pm

amother Cyclamen wrote:

I've purchased it in NJ- and I know lots of people who do. Pretty sure its illegal commercially, but there are lots of people like me who would call a farm and come up with a set up to by raw milk

In NJ it's illegal to sell raw milk for any purpose including animal food
Witch is why if you buy it it has to be Chlov Yisrael

↑ Minnie0mouse ↓

Mon, Jul 08 2024, 8:21 pm

amother Cyclamen wrote:

Wow, thank you! I love the second one. Is there a Jewish community in Howell?