NOT KNOWING HUSBAND IS EVIL????

Aish ↓

Mon, Aug 15 2005, 7:58 pm

this is intriguing, and confusing me. im sure most of you know from the news that they recently caught a serial killer who turned himself in. he was know as the BTK killer.
apparently he had a normal home life all the years that he carried out these heinies crimes.
his wife never knew a thing??!!??
do you think that its possible to live with someone and not detect any such evil in them??
to really be in the dark for so many years??
WHAT DO YOU THINK??

stem

Mon, Aug 15 2005, 8:02 pm

I think it's possible for a person to be such a con-artist that even his own spouse would not what he does when he's not home. Also, his wife might be innocent about such things (as most of us are) and wouldn't even know what the signs of these kinds of actions would be even if they were staring her in the face.

shoy18 ↓

Mon, Aug 15 2005, 8:03 pm

It is possible to lead a double life, most people who do are very meticulous about everything, they very often have OCD and everything is always perfect, they commit their murder clean up spotlessly and then go home and eat dinner.

↑ Aish ↓

Mon, Aug 15 2005, 8:12 pm

shoy18, I understand what your saying. but what I find so very hard to belive is that she did not detect A THING??? when you live with someone, you pick up vibes, energy, if you want to go there. its just to hard to belive. from what I know, there is no info about her in the press. she has gone into seclusion, so we cant really hear her side.
but still......

ASinger

Mon, Aug 15 2005, 8:26 pm

Something else to think about...
Perhaps they were living separate lives 'together'..
Who knows...!

↑ shoy18

Mon, Aug 15 2005, 9:08 pm

It is totally possible if you've ever read about serial killers, or seen documentarys on them, a lot of them led what seemed to be totally normal lives. Alot of them who have commited many murders are the ones who have double lives otherwise how would they kill so many people without gettng caught.

smile

Tue, Aug 16 2005, 11:26 am

Aish, I think too that it is hard to imagine, that she did not see something was going on. She lived with that man.

Tefila ↓

Tue, Aug 16 2005, 11:38 am

I too don't understand but sometimes a person will turn a blind eye for someone one What

loves and maybe she sort've knew but refused to believe so completley switched off..... who knows

Tovah

Tue, Aug 16 2005, 9:28 pm

this is alittle off topic but my husband once told me how he heard astory about a frum man that was married to 2 diff. women and had 2 seperate families,
his buisness was that he had to be out of town 2x a week so basically 2x a week with one family and 2x a week with the other.
now that is freaky

technic ↓

Tue, Aug 16 2005, 10:34 pm

how did he pay TWO shul bills??? shock

↑ Tefila

Tue, Aug 16 2005, 10:46 pm

Technic thats all u worry about Tongue Out

Mommy912 ↓

Tue, Aug 16 2005, 10:47 pm

He gets a quantity discount. The first membership is full price, the second is on sale, 30% off.

↑ technic ↓

Tue, Aug 16 2005, 11:06 pm

supermom ↓

Thu, Aug 18 2005, 7:35 am

what is a btk killer firstly and also what is a OCD?

it is possible that she didn't know how many woman in this world don't even know what their husbands are up to only to find out later that their husbands are cheating, drugacholics, ect. Not all woman know what their husbands are up to all the time. like he can do it very clean and still come home on time and she doesn't expects nothing and if her husband doesn't drop any clues then nothing to worry about.

lucky

Thu, Aug 18 2005, 8:32 am

Sometimes people are in denial. They do not want to know what their spouse is doing.
I heard recently about a woman who thought her husband was in kollel,when actually he was VERY far from that. She just never questioned why he came home at midnight, In fact she used to talk about how late he learns.

↑ technic

Thu, Aug 18 2005, 9:12 am

super no clue re btk sorry...ocd = obsessive-compulsive disorder

Pearl

Thu, Aug 18 2005, 9:15 am

you can read about him on cnn.com (and probably on a million other websites)

ElTam

Thu, Aug 18 2005, 9:58 am

Most people are normal, decent humans, and so that's what you expect people to be. you aren't looking for clues of something sinister, because why would you.

Also, as some of the posters said, these people are very good at hiding their real selves. They know how to appear normal.

Of course, it may have been that there were some clues, but denial can keep us from seeing the truth about a lot of things.

↑ Mommy912

Thu, Aug 18 2005, 10:42 am

Thread Dictionary:
BTK: Dennis Rader, a serial killer. Called BTK because it was the nickname he gave himself, short for “Bind, Torture, Kill.” (eew..) More info at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8929452/
His wife was granted an 'emergency divorce'.

OCD: Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. DSM IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - Fourth Edition)
Either obsessions or compulsions:
Obsessions as defined by (1), (2), (3), and (4):
1. recurrent and persistent thoughts, impulses, or images that are experienced, at some time during the disturbance, as intrusive and inappropriate and that cause marked anxiety or distress
2.the thoughts, impulses, or images are not simply excessive worries about real-life problems
3.the person attempts to ignore or suppress such thoughts, impulses, or images, or to neutralize them with some other thought or action
4.the person recognizes that the obsessional thoughts, impulses, or images are a product of his or her own mind (not imposed from without as in thought insertion)

Compulsions as defined by (1) and (2):
1.repetitive behaviors (e.g., hand washing, ordering, checking) or mental acts (e.g., praying, counting, repeating words silently) that the person feels driven to perform in response to an obsession, or according to rules that must be applied rigidly
2.the behaviors or mental acts are aimed at preventing or reducing distress or preventing some dreaded event or situation; however, these behaviors or mental acts either are not connected in a realistic way with what they are designed to neutralize or prevent or are clearly excessive

More info at http://www.ocfoundation.org/

↑ supermom

Thu, Aug 18 2005, 3:17 pm

thanks wow that is a horrible death that these people must have had.