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amother
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Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 5:10 am
What do you eat each day?
Specifically for lunch and supper?
Thanks
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amother
Peachpuff


 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 5:47 am
I only ever lost weight on IF when I only ate one meal a day (early dinner). It would be yummy food to give me motivation to get through the day, but not total junk food. I'd break the fast with a little fruit and veggies, then fill up on something yummy like pizza, ravioli, ormac and cheese, then only when I wasalready pretty full I'd have a piece of cake or a something with no nutrition.

I lost weight quickly like that, but it was very difficult.
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dats me




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 6:18 am
If you’re putting in the effort to fast, don’t sabotage it all by eating carb heavy foods for your meals. The whole point of fasting is to keep your insulin levels down, so keep doing that by eating low carb, nutrient dense foods. Keep grains, sugars and seed oils as low as possible and focus on animal proteins with animal fats.
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amother
Birch


 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 7:13 am
I found that for me, having more or less the same things for the day meals help me "open" and "close" my fasting window much more easily than when the meals were random.
Healthy breakfast +
Lunch: either a big salad with some protein (like cheese) or something to make it more fun and interesting, or a sandwich. Supper - a protein (Shabbos leftovers, fish etc) and a side of cooked veggies or sliced ones.
I've been losing weight nicely b"H and I feel good (and full). You need to find what works for you... everyone is different.
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amother
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Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 7:41 am
I think what’s hard for me is that I am never satisfied on vegetables and protein alone. I do see the difference that when I add protein to my meal I am more satisfied.
I can choose healthier carbs like a sweet potato or whole grain bread but if I don’t have any carbs with my meals I just end up cheating and eventually giving up.
Some examples of meals I eat-
Broccoli with a melted slice of reduced fat cheese- I enjoy it but an hour later I’m very hungry.
Salad with tuna- filling but I’m not completely satisfied
Salad with turkey- same thing- it tastes good but I’m starving an hour later.
I know cutting out carbs is the way to go but I’m not managing like that. I’ll either end up eating something that I really shouldn’t eat and justify it that it’s during my eating hours or I’ll eat at night when I’m supposed to be fasting because I’m going crazy from hunger.
I wanted some good ideas for meals that will satisfy me.
Dats me- I like your diet 😊 but you are either starving all morning or starving all night. I can’t do that.
Another thing that I have to do to make this work is eat in the morning which means I have to stop eating early in the evening. I try to stop eating at around 5:30pm so I can have a normal breakfast.
If I eat oatmeal, whole wheat/grain bread, gluten free pasta (sometimes) and sweet potatoes I’m barely losing weight.
I really need some new ideas.
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amother
Clover


 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 8:03 am
I’ve been successfully doing IF 18:6 for a few weeks, lost around 10 pounds. But I also upped my exercise a lot. I try to get in 50+ grams of protein a day. Cut out all sugar, flour and cheese.

I eat 2 meals, plus a large banana and other fruit and almonds.
1- eggs and spinach (5 egg whites or 3 whole eggs), or plain Greek yogurt with fruit, or a can of tuna (no mayo) with lettuce, or tilapia or salmon

2- lots of chicken and starchy veg like corn or sweet potato, sometimes brown rice or a slice of whole wheat bread if I exercised heavy that day. Last night I had 2 burgers no bun for supper and I was hungry all night, that wasn’t enough to keep me full.
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amother
Amaryllis  


 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 10:03 am
amother OP wrote:
I think what’s hard for me is that I am never satisfied on vegetables and protein alone. I do see the difference that when I add protein to my meal I am more satisfied.
I can choose healthier carbs like a sweet potato or whole grain bread but if I don’t have any carbs with my meals I just end up cheating and eventually giving up.
Some examples of meals I eat-
Broccoli with a melted slice of reduced fat cheese- I enjoy it but an hour later I’m very hungry.
Salad with tuna- filling but I’m not completely satisfied
Salad with turkey- same thing- it tastes good but I’m starving an hour later.
I know cutting out carbs is the way to go but I’m not managing like that. I’ll either end up eating something that I really shouldn’t eat and justify it that it’s during my eating hours or I’ll eat at night when I’m supposed to be fasting because I’m going crazy from hunger.
I wanted some good ideas for meals that will satisfy me.
Dats me- I like your diet 😊 but you are either starving all morning or starving all night. I can’t do that.
Another thing that I have to do to make this work is eat in the morning which means I have to stop eating early in the evening. I try to stop eating at around 5:30pm so I can have a normal breakfast.
If I eat oatmeal, whole wheat/grain bread, gluten free pasta (sometimes) and sweet potatoes I’m barely losing weight.
I really need some new ideas.


You are making a big mistake by going low fat.

You need to do low carb and high (healthy) fat. Then you will feel full.

Fats don't make you fat, carbs do.

I do intermittent fasting and high protein/fat and barely any carbs. I generally feel full for a long time after lunch and supper.

Lunch is either eggs with cheese in a cauliflower crepe (carb free, sold in stores) or salad with salmon, or carb free noodles with sauce and cheese, or tuna (with lots of mayo) and salad.

Supper is usually some fleishig with cooked veg.
Almond flour shnitzel or hamburgers (no bun), or grilled chicken.
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amother
Iris  


 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 10:06 am
If didn’t work for me. I ate in a very strict window - healthy food. Didn’t lose much. It was frustrating. Did it twice.
Both times after if went on a healthy diet. Ate when hungry. Lost much more. And felt better.
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amother
  Amaryllis  


 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 10:28 am
amother Iris wrote:
If didn’t work for me. I ate in a very strict window - healthy food. Didn’t lose much. It was frustrating. Did it twice.
Both times after if went on a healthy diet. Ate when hungry. Lost much more. And felt better.


Different things work for different people.

(If the first time it didn't work and then you found another diet that worked for you, why didn't you go directly to that the second time?)
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amother
  OP  


 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 10:28 am
amother Amaryllis wrote:
You are making a big mistake by going low fat.

You need to do low carb and high (healthy) fat. Then you will feel full.

Fats don't make you fat, carbs do.

I do intermittent fasting and high protein/fat and barely any carbs. I generally feel full for a long time after lunch and supper.

Lunch is either eggs with cheese in a cauliflower crepe (carb free, sold in stores) or salad with salmon, or carb free noodles with sauce and cheese, or tuna (with lots of mayo) and salad.

Supper is usually some fleishig with cooked veg.
Almond flour shnitzel or hamburgers (no bun), or grilled chicken.



I will keep this in mind. Thank you!

I’m going to plan my food today so I don’t go off track.

Breakfast I already had a coffee (with stevia and almond milk) and a protein bar (5g of sugar)

Snack maybe an apple if I’m hungry

Lunch - salmon with green beans and cottage cheese

Snack maybe I’ll put some popcorn kernels in the microwave

Supper… not sure yet- maybe tuna and corn?
Or maybe I Should I have a slice of pizza when I buy for my kids? Probably not!
Should I cheat on a tablespoon of ice cream I’m eyeing for days in my freezer?

Is this too much?

My goal is to stop eating by 5-5:30 because I’m the type who needs to eat in the morning. I just couldn’t do IF when I was waiting to eat until 12-1
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amother
  Iris


 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 10:34 am
amother Amaryllis wrote:
Different things work for different people.

(If the first time it didn't work and then you found another diet that worked for you, why didn't you go directly to that the second time?)


Because I’m lazy and when I read how it works for everyone I thought again maybe it would work for me. But again it didn’t…

Last time I did weight watchers after to lose the weight. This time I’m doing more intuitive eating, eating when hungry, high protein, high veg meals.
I’m not so smart when it comes to weight loss and don’t always repeat what worked or didn’t last time. Don’t ask why I don’t learn from
My mistakes.
There are 3 years between my attempts.

Most likely I’ll still try it again in the future anyways
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shanie5  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 10:28 pm
amother OP wrote:
I will keep this in mind. Thank you!

I’m going to plan my food today so I don’t go off track.

Breakfast I already had a coffee (with stevia and almond milk) and a protein bar (5g of sugar)

Snack maybe an apple if I’m hungry

Lunch - salmon with green beans and cottage cheese

Snack maybe I’ll put some popcorn kernels in the microwave

Supper… not sure yet- maybe tuna and corn?
Or maybe I Should I have a slice of pizza when I buy for my kids? Probably not!
Should I cheat on a tablespoon of ice cream I’m eyeing for days in my freezer?

Is this too much?

My goal is to stop eating by 5-5:30 because I’m the type who needs to eat in the morning. I just couldn’t do IF when I was waiting to eat until 12-1


Get rid of the protien bar-there is no value in it. It's just a fancy name for a candy bar. Eat eggs cooked in butter or olive oil. Or have leftover protien and fat from dinner.

Snack-apple is carby. Try a handful of nuts instead. Or some cheese-regular, not lowfat.

Lunch is decent. Just make sure the cottage sheese is full fat, not low fat. If it were me, I'd be adding sourcream to the cottage cheese

Supper-Tuna is good. Corn is high carb. Want pizza? try a portabella mushroom cap with sauce and cheese. Pizza crust is high carb.

Don't start cheating until you've got the rest down well.
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amother
DarkKhaki


 

Post Mon, Aug 05 2024, 10:56 pm
Following. Late dinner is killing me. I ate at 7:30, it’s almost 11 and I feel like pushing in 2 fingers. I don’t know how to eat small meals. My sleep is so disturbed when I over eat or eat late, But I’m an emotional wreck these days. Was so refreshing to read this post. I will start tomorrow again! Thank you
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amother
  OP  


 

Post Tue, Aug 06 2024, 11:09 am
Thanks for the encouragement and ideas.
I really needed to get back on track.

Just after one day of sticking with it I already lost 2 pounds. I know I won’t lose 2 lbs every day but I had to get back into this routine.

Yesterday this is what I ate. It wasn’t what I planned but it worked out that way. I wasn’t amazing but I wasn’t terrible either.

Breakfast
Coffee with almond milk, stevia
Protein bar from amazon

Lunch
Oatmeal packets
1/2 an apple

Supper
Sweet Potato
Salmon
1/2 slice pizza without the crust
1/4 cup of ice cream (I know… but if I wouldn’t be trying at all I would have had 2 cups probably)

And by 6pm I was done eating until 10:30 this morning.

BH!

Today I will try to incorporate vegetables like broccoli and lettuce. I know I ate too many carbs yesterday but it was within limits and not out of control and no more eating after supper.

Please Hashem help me lose another 12-15 lbs. that’s all I ask for. It’s not a lot but I need a lot of help sticking to my plan to lose that.
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amother
  Amaryllis  


 

Post Tue, Aug 06 2024, 11:16 am
Good for you for getting back on track! (Weight changes usually take a few days to manifest).

Your lunch was only carbs. Can you add a protein instead of some of the oatmeal packets?
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amother
  OP  


 

Post Tue, Aug 06 2024, 11:23 am
amother Amaryllis wrote:
Good for you for getting back on track! (Weight changes usually take a few days to manifest).

Your lunch was only carbs. Can you add a protein instead of some of the oatmeal packets?


Yeah, I don’t plan on eating oatmeal every day. I started getting ready to make eggs but my kids were ready to go out and getting very kvetchy so I just grabbed the oatmeal packets. I won’t be doing that regularly. I had to eat before I went out because I was starving! Had I not eaten the oatmeal I would have joined them in sprinkles with their milkshakes and razzles. I was able to hold back.
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amother
Daylily


 

Post Tue, Aug 06 2024, 11:30 am
amother OP wrote:
I think what’s hard for me is that I am never satisfied on vegetables and protein alone. I do see the difference that when I add protein to my meal I am more satisfied.
I can choose healthier carbs like a sweet potato or whole grain bread but if I don’t have any carbs with my meals I just end up cheating and eventually giving up.
Some examples of meals I eat-
Broccoli with a melted slice of reduced fat cheese- I enjoy it but an hour later I’m very hungry.
Salad with tuna- filling but I’m not completely satisfied
Salad with turkey- same thing- it tastes good but I’m starving an hour later.
I know cutting out carbs is the way to go but I’m not managing like that. I’ll either end up eating something that I really shouldn’t eat and justify it that it’s during my eating hours or I’ll eat at night when I’m supposed to be fasting because I’m going crazy from hunger.
I wanted some good ideas for meals that will satisfy me.
Dats me- I like your diet 😊 but you are either starving all morning or starving all night. I can’t do that.
Another thing that I have to do to make this work is eat in the morning which means I have to stop eating early in the evening. I try to stop eating at around 5:30pm so I can have a normal breakfast.
If I eat oatmeal, whole wheat/grain bread, gluten free pasta (sometimes) and sweet potatoes I’m barely losing weight.
I really need some new ideas.


I also need carbs. I went carb free for about a year (then regained a bunch by covid) and then I did a diet that included carbs but restricted calories and that worked better for me....
if I eat protein and vegatables I am starving!
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amother
Hosta  


 

Post Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:03 pm
A few suggestions
1. get rid of the candy bar- I mean protein bar:) Even though it tastes really yummy and I used to love it with my coffee. I got rid of it. I started to substitute plain Greek yogurt, with some berries in.
2. add some good healthy fats. Nuts, avocado, a handful of pumpkin seeds. They’re so delicious. They sell them in Costco and they’re super super healthy.
3. pushback the time you start in the morning. I never thought I could go without breakfast but now I don’t typically eat until 12 o’clock, I can even work out beforehand and I’m completely fine.
4. I’m not doing keto but when I want to snack I’ve been baking with almond flour or another low-carb substitute. Use monk fruit sugar or coconut sugar and dark chocolate chips. You can make it decent cookie or muffin that way.
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amother
Lightcyan  


 

Post Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:20 pm
amother OP wrote:
I think what’s hard for me is that I am never satisfied on vegetables and protein alone. I do see the difference that when I add protein to my meal I am more satisfied.
I can choose healthier carbs like a sweet potato or whole grain bread but if I don’t have any carbs with my meals I just end up cheating and eventually giving up.
Some examples of meals I eat-
Broccoli with a melted slice of reduced fat cheese- I enjoy it but an hour later I’m very hungry.
Salad with tuna- filling but I’m not completely satisfied
Salad with turkey- same thing- it tastes good but I’m starving an hour later.
I know cutting out carbs is the way to go but I’m not managing like that. I’ll either end up eating something that I really shouldn’t eat and justify it that it’s during my eating hours or I’ll eat at night when I’m supposed to be fasting because I’m going crazy from hunger.
I wanted some good ideas for meals that will satisfy me.
Dats me- I like your diet 😊 but you are either starving all morning or starving all night. I can’t do that.
Another thing that I have to do to make this work is eat in the morning which means I have to stop eating early in the evening. I try to stop eating at around 5:30pm so I can have a normal breakfast.
If I eat oatmeal, whole wheat/grain bread, gluten free pasta (sometimes) and sweet potatoes I’m barely losing weight.
I really need some new ideas.

So in order to go low carb you really need to eat a lot more protein and also fat. Broccoli can go with 3 eggs, 3 slices of cheese and a healthy dose of oil/avocado/mayo/sour cream in the mix. Salad with tuna should be 2 cans of tuna, lots of mayo. Salad with turkey means a whole package of turkey. As you get used to low carb eating you can cut down on the amounts but in the beginning if you don't have it you'll just cheat. I eat 12pm-6pm low carb every day besides Friday night Shabbos day and those are my hungriest days. Carbs make me feel like I have no control over my food. I lost 30 pounds in 5 months of eating like this and probably don't need to lose any more but I feel so much better so I hope it'll last a long time.
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OMG!  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Aug 06 2024, 1:59 pm
amother Lightcyan wrote:
So in order to go low carb you really need to eat a lot more protein and also fat. Broccoli can go with 3 eggs, 3 slices of cheese and a healthy dose of oil/avocado/mayo/sour cream in the mix. Salad with tuna should be 2 cans of tuna, lots of mayo. Salad with turkey means a whole package of turkey. As you get used to low carb eating you can cut down on the amounts but in the beginning if you don't have it you'll just cheat. I eat 12pm-6pm low carb every day besides Friday night Shabbos day and those are my hungriest days. Carbs make me feel like I have no control over my food. I lost 30 pounds in 5 months of eating like this and probably don't need to lose any more but I feel so much better so I hope it'll last a long time.

I have so many questions regarding this post. Can you please pm me? I hate shabbos for this one reason. I overeat and I don’t feel good motze shabbos
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