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  Rappel




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 24 2022, 12:34 pm
amother Magenta wrote:
She wrote that Raanana wasn't Torani enough.


If you stick to just the American community, then sure. But they have one of the best Torani schools in the country.
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amother
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Post Wed, Aug 24 2022, 12:42 pm
Rappel wrote:
If you stick to just the American community, then sure. But they have one of the best Torani schools in the country.


Thank you! Do you happen to know the name of it? And do you know what neighborhoods I would look in for more of that Torani community? Less Anglo is fine- we want to integrate.

Do you know how prices for rentals compare between Raanana and Rehovot?
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amother
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Post Wed, Aug 24 2022, 1:50 pm
Maybe Modiin
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  shabbatiscoming




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 24 2022, 1:56 pm
amother Camellia wrote:
Maybe Modiin
Not really what would be called torani though.
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Dolly151




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 24 2022, 10:46 pm
How about beit shemesh?
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Alternative




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 24 2022, 11:48 pm
Rappel wrote:
If you stick to just the American community, then sure. But they have one of the best Torani schools in the country.


What would that be? I can’t think of anything that fits the bill.
Raanana’s dati community is overwhelmingly MO or dati leumi, but not on the right wing side of the spectrum. I think more dati moms wear pants there than wear 3/4 sleeves.

If you want torani (by which I assume you mean more right wing dati leumi, what’s often called chardal) - you will be more likely to find it on some of the yeshuvim. Or in the cities far away from the merkaz, like Tzfat. Or in the garinim Toraniim spread throughout certain mixed cities, like Lod or Beit She’an. (These are organized keruv type communities that settle in secular or traditional neighborhoods).
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chanchy123  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Aug 25 2022, 12:06 am
You didn't write your budget -
But Petach Tikva, Ramat Gan, Rechovot, Netanya, (Givat Shmuel is not particularly torani) all these are cities, but if you have enough money you can probably find a private home there as well.
Also I'm not so clear what you mean by Torani, that can be a pretty wide spectrum.
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  chanchy123




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Aug 25 2022, 12:13 am
Alternative wrote:
What would that be? I can’t think of anything that fits the bill.
Raanana’s dati community is overwhelmingly MO or dati leumi, but not on the right wing side of the spectrum. I think more dati moms wear pants there than wear 3/4 sleeves.

If you want torani (by which I assume you mean more right wing dati leumi, what’s often called chardal) - you will be more likely to find it on some of the yeshuvim. Or in the cities far away from the merkaz, like Tzfat. Or in the garinim Toraniim spread throughout certain mixed cities, like Lod or Beit She’an. (These are organized keruv type communities that settle in secular or traditional neighborhoods).

Right, it didn't occur to me, but Lod is perfect for what you're looking. Urban area with all the services, private homes available, Torani community, easily commutable to Tel Aviv (train, bus, and really not that far by car).
Downside - very mixed population (Jews and Arabs, and a large portion of the Jews are from the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum) but no place is perfect - and if the criteria you mentioned are important to you - this is where you can find everything.
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amother
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Post Thu, Aug 25 2022, 12:35 am
amother OP wrote:
Thank you! Do you happen to know the name of it? And do you know what neighborhoods I would look in for more of that Torani community? Less Anglo is fine- we want to integrate.

Do you know how prices for rentals compare between Raanana and Rehovot?


Raanana is a total olim-chadashim place and used to be very Anglo a few years ago - before the French came Wink
There is a huge DL community but fewer strictly torani people - as others above posted, real strong torani/chardal is more a thing in some yishuvim, parts of the periphery and the outreach garinim in disadvantaged cities. Edit, and some parts of Jerusalem.

There is some kind of disconnect between urban in the mercaz and torani/chardal, which tends to have a strong focus on settling Eretz Yisrael, kiruv work and army service. These things are somehow a bit at odds with glittering skyscrapers and it is reflected in the population distribution.

To my best knowledge, Raanana is more expensive for renting and buying than Rechovot.
But my knowledge may be out of date, haven't visited Rechovot for more than 10 years. Back then it has still a bit of periphery charms about it. I've lived in Raanana in the past.
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amother
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Post Thu, Oct 10 2024, 9:02 pm
thank you for all the replies- bump for any other ideas!!
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  essie14  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 10 2024, 9:05 pm
Did you look into Givat shmuel?
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amother
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Post Thu, Oct 10 2024, 9:07 pm
essie14 wrote:
Did you look into Givat shmuel?


Yes- seems promising esp schools but the prices are… yikes. Theoretically possible but a downside
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  essie14




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 10 2024, 9:08 pm
amother OP wrote:
Yes- seems promising esp schools but the prices are… yikes. Theoretically possible but a downside

Urban areas are expensive. If you're willing to give up on that, maybe Mevo Horon? It's super close to Modiin so you have all the shopping and the train.
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amother
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Post Thu, Oct 10 2024, 9:15 pm
essie14 wrote:
Urban areas are expensive. If you're willing to give up on that, maybe Mevo Horon? It's super close to Modiin so you have all the shopping and the train.


Yes, I know. But to spend 3.3m nis for a 4 room is a lot. rechovot seems like you can get that for 2.5m for ex. Interesting- never heard of it!
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amother
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Post Sat, Oct 12 2024, 12:20 pm
Jerusalem - Kiryat Moshe. Strong torani community, torani schools all the way through high school, very commutable to Tel Aviv because the train is walking distance. Or with a car via highway 1 thorough the main entrance to the city or via the new highway 16. Not cheap though.

Raanana doesn't have much of a torani community and neither does Modiin.

Lod and Rechovot both have what you are looking for. So does Petach Tikvah (almost no anglos though), but there are a few neighborhoods with strong religious communities.
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amother
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Post Sat, Oct 12 2024, 1:28 pm
I see that it was left out - Jerusalem may be your best bet.

The neighborhoods you would be looking at are Kiryat Moshe, Ramot Bet ( Noam is a great school in Ramot), Kiryat Menachem.
Kiryat Moshe is the most expensive but also the easiest commute to Tel Aviv, you can walk to the light rail, take it one stop, and then you are in Tachana mercazit and 30 minutes to Tel Aviv on the fast train.

The downside is the high cost of real estate - if you are coming from Manhattan it may not be so much but we are talking minimum 3 million nis for a 3 bedroom apartment.......
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amother
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Post Sat, Oct 12 2024, 1:56 pm
amother OP wrote:
Yes, I know. But to spend 3.3m nis for a 4 room is a lot. rechovot seems like you can get that for 2.5m for ex. Interesting- never heard of it!

Yes look into mevo horon but it’s more in the countryside. I think it’s accessible to modiin around 20min by bus
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amother
Razzmatazz


 

Post Sat, Oct 12 2024, 2:22 pm
RBS or Beit Shemesh. Expensive but everything is here. You have a few Torani communities, Rabbi's and shuls, schools. Shopping either walking ,taxi ,bus. Hour to TA. Bus or train.
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dilego




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Oct 12 2024, 5:35 pm
I wonder uf the new shchunot in modiin are not going to have a stronger torani community as some appartements where mechir la mishtaken
But its not finished built
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