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amother
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 Mon, Jan 06 2025, 9:19 pm
| amother Periwinkle wrote: | Then you weren't reading real erotica. Because that's sorta the point of erotica.
I sometimes read reviews of books and the women will write - the guy was so hot... then I know its probably not for me. They're obviously imagining themselves with the guy. |
Hmm. Could be. I’ve read The Queen of Jerusalem and the like, In all the Broken places, etc.
So I’m not sure what truly qualifies but those were quite detailed.
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amother
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Mon, Jan 06 2025, 9:22 pm
| amother Mauve wrote: | | Geloy Arayos or however you spell it is not just adultery. It’s all forbidden arayos- meaning s-xual acts. |
Okay. So I agree we shouldn’t engage in any forbidden s-xual acts.
But I can’t see why reading about them would be part of it. You’re not engaging in Anything. Not that it’s at all admirable or whatnot to read these, but I don’t see the qualifications for the three serious sins.
Because if reading about them was a problem, there’s a hefty dose of this type of reading in the Torah too.
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amother
Cherry
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Mon, Jan 06 2025, 10:06 pm
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In my opinion, not the same, but not good either. Erotica is made by one person (usually a woman) and distributed thru more discrete and appropriate channels. P-rn involves at least two people, and possibly trafficked or drugged women or even girls. P-rn also has real life physical and emotional consequences for the "actors," while erotica does not. And of course there is the key difference that p-rn is the real act while written material is just that. In my opinion, though, both are implicated in the degradation of human s-xuality as they normalize violent and degrading relations acts (from what I've heard on social media, a lot of the popular books are very dark) or at the very least erase the beauty and nuance of intimacy and give their audience unrealistic expectations.
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amother
Antiquewhite
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Tue, Jan 07 2025, 12:09 am
| amother OP wrote: | Okay. So I agree we shouldn’t engage in any forbidden s-xual acts.
But I can’t see why reading about them would be part of it. You’re not engaging in Anything. Not that it’s at all admirable or whatnot to read these, but I don’t see the qualifications for the three serious sins.
Because if reading about them was a problem, there’s a hefty dose of this type of reading in the Torah too. |
The Torah isn't a story book, and is intentionally vague and "clean".
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amother
Honey
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Tue, Jan 07 2025, 2:28 am
I say it is the same as in
[filth]:men=Erotica:women
Different genders response to different senses differently
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amother
Banana
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Today at 12:08 am
The Torah mentions those relations but it's more in the way of "they lay together" instead of "she caressed his muscular..."
I'm very curious about that rambam though. Perhaps someone can find a source so we can find out?
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amother
Seagreen
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Today at 12:22 am
| amother Mauve wrote: | | Geloy Arayos or however you spell it is not just adultery. It’s all forbidden arayos- meaning s-xual acts. |
What if you are reading about a non-forbidden act?
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Molly Weasley
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Today at 12:36 am
I asked DH about this Rambam, he said he never heard of it, but he assumes any [inappropriate] Indulgence outside the framework of marriage is probably a issue.
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amother
Pear
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Today at 2:43 am
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Reading spicy romance gets me more excited to be with dh.
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