Could ds’s issues be from vaccines

amother

↑ Turquoise

Yesterday at 8:42 am

Trademark wrote:

If that's the case then you would need medical intervention.

Either it's functioning the way hashem intended, or if it's failing in some way and that's a serious medical concern.

There's plenty in between

It can be struggling or failing in subtle ways that are a health concern but not yet a serious medical concern.

Our sick-care system is designed to pick up and treat life threatening issues. That doesn't mean that everything else is the epitome of good health.

↑ Trademark

Yesterday at 8:48 am

amother Turquoise wrote:

There's plenty in between

It can be struggling or failing in subtle ways that are a health concern but not yet a serious medical concern.

Is there any medical research to back up this detox?

To me it sounds like a multi billion dollar industry of quack medicine saying, " here's something you can't test for, and you'll never know if you have it, but let me sell some products that supposedly detox you, not regulated at all and not based on any serious research."

amother

↑ Candycane

Yesterday at 9:10 am

Trademark wrote:

Or it could be just the age and stage.

And the detox thing is non sense. Hashem created a Wonderful body that detoxes itself and washes out any toxins. You have a liver, kidneys etc for a reason.

Now you sound like an anti vaxer. Hashem created a wonderful body that detoxes itself. The body needs the vaccine but when it’s a detox from something unnatural then it’s nonsense? Just playing devils advocate because I see an inconsistency here. The detox is probably none sense. With this logic ,even more so is the vaccine.

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Yesterday at 5:25 pm

Trademark wrote:

You do realize that the vaccine industry is a multi billion dollar industry completely protected against any effects they cause?

amother

Pewter

Yesterday at 5:33 pm

Sewsew_mom wrote:

So your normal is based on what you see with other people's children. You don't know what exactly contributes to the behavior of all the children. And I'd be shocked if this was the truth that a large percentage doesn't receive vaccines. Maybe you're speaking truth, yet I'm very skeptical with this comment. Most people do vaccinate or have vaccinations in their home.

If you only believe something if those facts support your preconceived notions, that is a logical fallacy.

amother

↑ Nasturtium ↓

Yesterday at 5:36 pm

amother Candycane wrote:

Why wouldn’t varicella titers be accepted? If you get the chicken pox, you’re immune for life. You don’t need the vaccine.

there is the NJ DOH The Antibody Titer Law (NJSA 26:2N-8)) which only refers to mmr
ther threshold of immunity for varicella according to labs is not accepted by doh only proof of actually having chicken pox.
(I'd assume that if someone actually had chickenpox and took labwork around that time it's acceptable proof bec titers will be sky high, but thats a guess)

amother

↑ Nasturtium ↓

Yesterday at 5:41 pm

amother Steel wrote:

If a child never received a vaccine how would they have titers?

For boosters 100% the child would have the titers (boosters are a way to make money for the vaccine companies)

right, only if got initial vax.

boosters, most probably will be immune.
from cdc website:One dose of MMR vaccine is 93% effective against measles, 78% effective against mumps, and 97% effective against rubella.
Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps.

ever wonder why they leave the rubella in there if immunity doesn't change??

so the extra dose is only for a small minority of ppl, and most of the world gives it bec who cares...unless your child had/is prone to a vaccine injury.

mommyisbest

Yesterday at 5:48 pm

Homeopathy and Detoxing is an absolute waste of money.

It's like going to a magic wizard.

Seriously, some of the homeopathic medicines are diluted so many times, it's as if someone poured a capsule of the active ingredient into the Atlantic Ocean and took a cup of water from that ocean.

Give your money to tzedaka for a segula instead.

The alternative health field is a billion dollar field with zero regulation at all. Mercola makes millions from his propaganda. Vaccines are also, but they at least need to be tested. Don't fall for something ridiculous just because you have possibly valid concerns for vaccines..

amother

Oak ↓

Yesterday at 5:56 pm

amother Nasturtium wrote:

hmmm. are you finished with chicken pox vax or still require another one. since it's not a life threatening one I'd stay away.
you can try for a medical waiver from your dr( always best option!), or if you are in nj a
religious waiver is acceptable.

I actually know two perfectly healthy people who died from chicken pox when I was a kid. My mother watched it happen to these families. She is so so grateful that her grandchildren are protected against it

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Yesterday at 6:04 pm

amother Oak wrote:

I can guarantee you there are many deaths more from vaccines that you don’t know about. Do you know there have been 100s of deaths from the HPV vaccine (that by the way has no proof it prevents cervical cancer)
https://www.wisnerbaum.com/pre.....aths/

amother

↑ Oak ↓

Yesterday at 6:17 pm

amother Steel wrote:

How many kids died from the polio vaccine?

How many kids died from polio?

amother

↑ Oak ↓

Yesterday at 6:17 pm

amother Steel wrote:

I was responding to the person who said chicken pox is not life threatening

GLUE

Yesterday at 6:27 pm

amother Oak wrote:

How many kids died from the polio vaccine?

How many kids died from polio?

If you want more info about how many people died from the polio vaccine this is a good book to start with
The Cutter Incident: How America's First Polio Vaccine Led to the Growing Vaccine Crisis-
Paul A. Offit

amother

↑ Oak ↓

Yesterday at 6:40 pm

GLUE wrote:

Now tell me how many people died from polio.

Tell me if there is any comparison between those numbers.

amother

↑ Steel

Yesterday at 6:44 pm

amother Oak wrote:

Now tell me how many people died from polio.

Tell me if there is any comparison between those numbers.

The same way they will say the polio vaccine cured polio is the same way in 20 years they will say the (completely ineffective) covid vaccine saved us from Covid. The virus was already weakened by time vaccine came out.

amother

↑ Oak

Yesterday at 6:45 pm

amother Steel wrote:

You have not answered the question. First answer the question then there is room to discuss.

amother

↑ Ghostwhite ↓

Yesterday at 7:29 pm

Sewsew_mom wrote:

It’s actually not my normal, it’s a cognitive milestone, as the child develops a sense of self.
Often parents will report behavioral issues as self assertion begins. It’s concerning when this doesn’t happen, unless the child is a particularly calm passive child.
There are some communities which have many who do not vac. Iykyk.

amother

↑ Ghostwhite ↓

Yesterday at 7:34 pm

amother Steel wrote:

I really don’t believe it either.
Vaccines are causing these issues. Not every ei issue is. Major issue nowadays either. But the kids with real brain developmental disturbances taht were fine before shots, 100% shots related no question. Kids issues don’t just come out at older age. If a child has delays they would be a delayed baby. If a child was within normal and I suddenly not, damage occurred, likely from shots.

Developmental issues and behavioral issues are completely different.
Also, some of what you are saying is inaccurate, if you study language/ cognitive/ physical delays you will realize this.
I’m noting this bc inaccuracies like this make a practical difference in treatment.
If you worked in a community where a large percentage doesn’t vax you would retract this.
Could be vaccines do cause injury, but there is plenty going around without vaccines

amother

↑ Ghostwhite

Yesterday at 7:36 pm

amother OP wrote:

It’s not age and stage. If it was, he wouldn’t be the only kid kicked out of his playgroup.

Check both his hearing and vision. Once a child is two there is an expectation of behavior from playgroups, if he can’t hear/ see properly he won’t be able to follow directions and will be viewed as very non compliant