Could ds’s issues be from vaccines

amother

↑ Ghostwhite ↓

Yesterday at 7:16 pm

Sewsew_mom wrote:

When you say this.. Normal.. Do you vaccinate your children that you're comparing everyone to your experience?
Just curious

I’m an early intervention therapist, a large percentage of my c clientele unvaccinated.

amother

Nasturtium ↓

Yesterday at 7:19 pm

were both vaccines the same one that caused behavior issue?
yes it's possible. it happened to me
3x same vaccine. I went to Dr each time so was on record. I didn't connect the dots till after 3rd time.
please don't continue to repeat mistakes. some kids are genetically pre disposed.

amother

Daylily

Yesterday at 7:23 pm

amother Ghostwhite wrote:

I’m an early intervention therapist, a large percentage of my c clientele unvaccinated.

Oh really? And How exactly do you know this? I've had 2 kids who had ei services and I never turned over immunization records.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Yesterday at 7:23 pm

amother Nasturtium wrote:

The first time we gave a bunch pretty close together to catch him up. This time was only chicken pox. So I can’t pinpoint…

amother

↑ Ghostwhite

Yesterday at 7:25 pm

amother Daylily wrote:

Oh really? And How exactly do you know this? I've had 2 kids who had ei services and I never turned over immunization records.

Maybe it depends on where you are.
I was given full medical records, along with a consent to speak to the pediatrician.

amother

Starflower

Yesterday at 7:28 pm

amother Turquoise wrote:

Absolutely but imamother isn't going to be a friendly place for this discussion.

First thing to do is stop vaccinating.
Second is to work on detoxing. You can look into Andy Cutler Chelation, or chelating with a functional medicine doctor, or homeopathy may be a good option as well.

How can you not vaccinate? I live in NY… the schools bully you into it claiming the child can’t stay in school as they’ll get fines..

amother

↑ Nasturtium ↓

Yesterday at 7:36 pm

amother OP wrote:

The first time we gave a bunch pretty close together to catch him up. This time was only chicken pox. So I can’t pinpoint…

hmmm. are you finished with chicken pox vax or still require another one. since it's not a life threatening one I'd stay away.
you can try for a medical waiver from your dr( always best option!), or if you are in nj a religious waiver is acceptable.

amother

↑ Turquoise ↓

Yesterday at 7:43 pm

You can submit titers instead of more boosters for CP

If titers are extremely high that can also be a clue that it's causing issues.

A would look into acyclovir, vitamin a therapy, homeopathy and LDN

This scientific, peer reviewed article discusses onset of psychiatric symptoms following vaccines including varicella.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/a.....4035/

amother

↑ Nasturtium

Yesterday at 7:47 pm

only acceptable titer is mmr
however, you can test ALL vaccine titers to know for yourself their immunity before making a decision

↑ Sewsew_mom

Yesterday at 9:00 pm

amother Ghostwhite wrote:

I’m an early intervention therapist, a large percentage of my c clientele unvaccinated.

So your normal is based on what you see with other people's children. You don't know what exactly contributes to the behavior of all the children. And I'd be shocked if this was the truth that a large percentage doesn't receive vaccines. Maybe you're speaking truth, yet I'm very skeptical with this comment. Most people do vaccinate or have vaccinations in their home.

amother

Candycane ↓

Today at 10:15 am

amother Nasturtium wrote:

only acceptable titer is mmr
however, you can test ALL vaccine titers to know for yourself their immunity before making a decision

Why wouldn’t varicella titers be accepted? If you get the chicken pox, you’re immune for life. You don’t need the vaccine.

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Today at 10:21 am

Sewsew_mom wrote:

I really don’t believe it either.
Vaccines are causing these issues. Not every ei issue is. Major issue nowadays either. But the kids with real brain developmental disturbances taht were fine before shots, 100% shots related no question. Kids issues don’t just come out at older age. If a child has delays they would be a delayed baby. If a child was within normal and I suddenly not, damage occurred, likely from shots.

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Today at 10:24 am

amother Nasturtium wrote:

only acceptable titer is mmr
however, you can test ALL vaccine titers to know for yourself their immunity before making a decision

If a child never received a vaccine how would they have titers?

For boosters 100% the child would have the titers (boosters are a way to make money for the vaccine companies)

amother

↑ Steel

Today at 10:27 am

amother OP wrote:

The first time we gave a bunch pretty close together to catch him up. This time was only chicken pox. So I can’t pinpoint…

A bunch?? Then very likely it is vaccines Sad

((
They should never be given together as it increases chances for adverse effects many times over. I’m so sorry, it should be illegal what these drs are doing (unknown to them, don’t believe most even know how much harm they can cause innocent children)

amother

Ballota

Today at 10:31 am

amother OP wrote:

Just trying to figure out if there’s a link- ds didn’t get vaccines till close to 2. At around the same time he started having behavior issues. Recently had to give him another shot (close to two years later) and his issues seem to be worse. I wish I could remember for sure if this always followed the vaccines but it’s hard to pinpoint when things start getting worse…

Any way to figure this out and is there anything I can do?

What else happened around age 2?

And what do you mean by behavior issues? (Have you ever heard of the "terrible twos"? It happens regardless of vaccines. My baby hasn't had vaccines in almost a year. But suddenly in the past 2 months, about 1 month before age 2...lots of lying on the floor tantrums. LOL. It's called terrible twos. It's a healthy normal stage.)

Trademark ↓

Today at 10:42 am

amother OP wrote:

There’s a significant change in behavior. I don’t know the day it started so I can’t say 100% but it doesn’t seem like a coincidence that both times after we vaccinated he started with new difficult behaviors.

Or it could be just the age and stage.

And the detox thing is non sense. Hashem created a Wonderful body that detoxes itself and washes out any toxins. You have a liver, kidneys etc for a reason.

amother

↑ OP

Today at 11:11 am

Trademark wrote:

Or it could be just the age and stage.

And the detox thing is non sense. Hashem created a Wonderful body that detoxes itself and washes out any toxins. You have a liver, kidneys etc for a reason.

It’s not age and stage. If it was, he wouldn’t be the only kid kicked out of his playgroup.

amother

↑ Turquoise ↓

Today at 11:25 am

Trademark wrote:

Or it could be just the age and stage.

And the detox thing is non sense. Hashem created a Wonderful body that detoxes itself and washes out any toxins. You have a liver, kidneys etc for a reason.

Our livers and kidneys can get overwhelmed and depleted. Detoxing means supporting them so they can do their job better.

↑ Trademark ↓

Today at 11:33 am

amother Turquoise wrote:

Our livers and kidneys can get overwhelmed and depleted. Detoxing means supporting them so they can do their job better.

If that's the case then you would need medical intervention.

Either it's functioning the way hashem intended, or if it's failing in some way and that's a serious medical concern.

↑ Trademark ↓

Today at 11:37 am

amother OP wrote:

It’s not age and stage. If it was, he wouldn’t be the only kid kicked out of his playgroup.

We need details, it's very unclear from your posts.

What's the timeline, how sudden/gradual, what are the behaviors, how was he before.