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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 9:22 pm
My daughter is refusing to apply to any by bc she doesn’t feel comfortable w not having her phone which I understand.( I also don’t love the bais yaakov hashkafa w the whole girls can’t wear their hair down thing. ) issue is I can’t find any sems she wants to go to that aren’t MO and teach Gemara which I’m not so comfortable with. Darchei Dinah would’ve been a perfect fit but now it’s a by
She’s a solid frum girl with solid hashkafos just not yeshivish.
She can be academic if she wants to
Any ideas?
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 9:32 pm
My daughter doesn’t want a by sem partially Bec she doesn’t feel comfortable w not having her phone which I understand.( I also don’t love the bais yaakov hashkafa w the whole girls can’t wear their hair down thing. ) and also Bec by isn’t really our hashkafa. issue is I can’t find any sems she wants to go to that aren’t MO and teach Gemara which I’m not so comfortable with. Darchei Dinah would’ve been a perfect fit but now it’s a by
She’s a solid frum girl with solid hashkafos just not yeshivish.
She can be academic
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:11 pm
amother OP wrote:
My daughter is refusing to apply to any by bc she doesn’t feel comfortable w not having her phone which I understand.( I also don’t love the bais yaakov hashkafa w the whole girls can’t wear their hair down thing. ) issue is I can’t find any sems she wants to go to that aren’t MO and teach Gemara which I’m not so comfortable with. Darchei Dinah would’ve been a perfect fit but now it’s a by
She’s a solid frum girl with solid hashkafos just not yeshivish.
She can be academic


Not going to get in to the seminary thing but I don’t think it’s healthy that she is too afraid to be without a smart phone for a few months. She’s already addicted at 17?
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:12 pm
The smartphone thing is Bec she has anxiety and I don’t either feel comfortable with her not having it for the year
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coloredleaves  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:15 pm
Michlala is kind of a cross over school. Some girls marry black hat afterwards and it definitely does not teach Gemara
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nicole81




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:16 pm
Scharfmans?
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:17 pm
Strongly considering Michlala but are there any other options? It’s so crazy how every other day there is a new yeshivish sem opening but we have barely any good middle of the road options.

My other q is what kind of girls attend these middle of road sems? Is it usually girls who wanna party, have bfs etc Bec that’s not at all what my daughter wants
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:18 pm
nicole81 wrote:
Scharfmans?


Heard it’s all otd kids nowadays I could be wrong tho
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:20 pm
Michala
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:23 pm
amother Aster wrote:
Michala



So we spoke abt Michlala. I thinks it’s too big for her. Anyone have a daughter there rn? Would like to apply there but wanna know if Theres any other places out there for her.
I’m really sad abt darchei binah would’ve been perfect for her. It’s crazy how every other day there are yeshivish sems opening up but there’s like 2 middle of road options
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:23 pm
All sems allow phones with calling and some even allow texting.
If she NEEDS more than that there is an issue that you should work on. For life. For dating. For marriage. For her husband. For her kids.
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:25 pm
amother Clematis wrote:
All sems allow phones with calling and some even allow texting.
If she NEEDS more than that there is an issue that you should work on. For life. For dating. For marriage. For her husband. For her kids.


Idk if I agree with this. There is nothing wrong with my daughter not wanting a dumb phone for a year. Bais yaakov isn’t my family’s hashkafa and I understand where she is coming from. I personally don’t even think I’d feel comfortable with her at a bais yaakov
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:33 pm
amother OP wrote:
Idk if I agree with this. There is nothing wrong with my daughter not wanting a dumb phone for a year. Bais yaakov isn’t my family’s hashkafa and I understand where she is coming from. I personally don’t even think I’d feel comfortable with her at a bais yaakov

It has nothing to do with hashkafa. It has to do with the attachment/addiction.
A 17 year old shouldn't be SO attached to a smart phone that she can't give it up for a few months. And if that's the only reason she's saying no to a seminary then you have to wonder why.
In NYC there was a petition to ban smart phones in public schools. There are articles galor of big C level employers and employees switching to, or working towards switching to dumb phone. Even non-Jews are waking up and realizing the value of dumb phones and how harmful smartphones are
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:35 pm
amother Clematis wrote:
It has nothing to do with hashkafa. It has to do with the attachment/addiction.
A 17 year old shouldn't be SO attached to a smart phone that she can't give it up for a few months. And if that's the only reason she's saying no to a seminary then you have to wonder why.
In NYC there was a petition to ban smart phones in public schools. There are articles galor of big C level employers and employees switching to, or working towards switching to dumb phone. Even non-Jews are waking up and realizing the value of dumb phones and how harmful smartphones are


There’s a lot of other reasons why I don’t want her in a bais yaakov. Phone just being one of them
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:37 pm
amother OP wrote:
There’s a lot of other reasons why I don’t want her in a bais yaakov. Phone just being one of them

There are options between BY and smartphone and if she's in a non-BY school they should have that info for you
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:38 pm
amother OP wrote:
My daughter doesn’t want a by sem partially Bec she doesn’t feel comfortable w not having her phone which I understand.( I also don’t love the bais yaakov hashkafa w the whole girls can’t wear their hair down thing. ) and also Bec by isn’t really our hashkafa. issue is I can’t find any sems she wants to go to that aren’t MO and teach Gemara which I’m not so comfortable with. Darchei Dinah would’ve been a perfect fit but now it’s a by
She’s a solid frum girl with solid hashkafos just not yeshivish.
She can be academic


MMY, Tomer devorah, michala
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:40 pm
amother Clematis wrote:
There are options between BY and smartphone and if she's in a non-BY school they should have that info for you


She’s in an oot by that’s the issue
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:40 pm
amother Seablue wrote:
MMY, Tomer devorah, michala


Thank you. What’s mmy like nowadays I went there 20+ yrs ago and it was MO
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:41 pm
Tiferet, new aish seminary
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amother
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Post Wed, Nov 20 2024, 10:41 pm
amother Seablue wrote:
Tiferet, new aish seminary


Too modern
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