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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 11 2023, 11:46 am
amother Teal wrote:
Can you clarify the different things I see?

I see people wearing a tied tichel like thing with a brown material in front, maybe meant to look like hair? And I see people wearing that same tichel thing with big bangs in front (like just the bangs of a sheitel) and I see people wearing the tichel with nothing in front.
Is that tichel called a shpitzel? Or the whole things together with the bangs/material?
What's the difference in the types of fronts?


A Shpitzel is like a cap that goes on your head, with silk threads in the front. On top of that goes a form and then either a tichel or a hat.
A shaitel in the front only (bangs) with a tichel or a hat is called a “front”
Some people wear just a tichel with no Shpitzel.
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 17 2023, 12:50 pm
GLUE wrote:
Can satmar wear a hat without a shaitel?
Can they wear a tichel without a shpitzel?


Yes and yes. A tichel without a Shpitzel is considered even more frim. But it’s for sure the most common to wear a Shpitzel with a tichel
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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 18 2023, 9:56 pm
lemaasa, when is the big change happening?
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amother
Bergamot  


 

Post Wed, Oct 18 2023, 10:29 pm
Why was this reported?
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pege  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:27 pm
Where can I get a shpitzel I would love to get one but I'm truly afraid to get one I would love to change but I first would like to try it on for my husband.
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amother
Peony


 

Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:32 pm
Good for you! Hope it all goes smoothly!
I bench you that your life should spiritual and uplifting in all areas as well.
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amother
Navyblue  


 

Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:36 pm
What about starting with silky tichels before jumping to a shpitzel
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 1:00 pm
amother Navyblue wrote:
What about starting with silky tichels before jumping to a shpitzel


You wear a tichel together with a shpitzel.
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 1:12 pm
pege wrote:
You wear a tichel together with a shpitzel.

.. 💯 true.
But wearing a tchel is not wearing a shpitzel. That's why I was suggesting op take step without jumping
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amother
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Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 10:15 am
pege wrote:
Where can I get a shpitzel I would love to get one but I'm truly afraid to get one I would love to change but I first would like to try it on for my husband.


Where are you located? There are plenty of people selling shpitzlech. Would you like me to pm you?
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amother
Celeste  


 

Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 10:22 am
Is blogging and having access to internet in sync with your values that move you towards putting on a shpitzel? Doesn't sound like same medreigah across the board.
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amother
Junglegreen


 

Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 10:24 am
amother OP wrote:
I’m very nervous. It’s a big change. No one in my family wears one.


I'm not ch'v knocking or questioning those who wear Shpitzels. If someone grew up in such a community I think it is wonderful that she continues to wear one. But for you did not grow in a community that wears them or even seems to value wearing them what is motivating you to want to change?
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amother
  Celeste


 

Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 10:27 am
amother Bergamot wrote:
Why was this reported?

How can you tell that it was reported?
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amother
Lily


 

Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 10:35 am
pege wrote:
Where can I get a shpitzel I would love to get one but I'm truly afraid to get one I would love to change but I first would like to try it on for my husband.


Why would you want to do this? I understand wanting to cover more, or replace a wig with a more modest hair covering. I could see going from not covering hair to putting on a wig or switching from wigs to a fabric hair covering like a scarf or hat. I don’t understand specifically wanting to wear a shpitzel. It’s not more modest. You’re not doing the mitzva better than just covering your hair with a scarf. A shpitzel is something a specific group uses and will look a little different or strange if you’re not living among people who wear that. It will make you stand out. The whole point of tznius is not standing out.
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amother
Forsythia


 

Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 11:10 am
amother Lily wrote:
Why would you want to do this? I understand wanting to cover more, or replace a wig with a more modest hair covering. I could see going from not covering hair to putting on a wig or switching from wigs to a fabric hair covering like a scarf or hat. I don’t understand specifically wanting to wear a shpitzel. It’s not more modest. You’re not doing the mitzva better than just covering your hair with a scarf. A shpitzel is something a specific group uses and will look a little different or strange if you’re not living among people who wear that. It will make you stand out. The whole point of tznius is not standing out.


Op is satmar , the community that wears shpitzlech, so she will not stand out.

In satmar, shpitzlech is a higher level of tznius.

Putting aside the point of whether it's halacha or not to wear a sheitel, a shpitzel is more modest and attracts less attention than a sheitel
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amother
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Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 11:26 am
amother Junglegreen wrote:
I'm not ch'v knocking or questioning those who wear Shpitzels. If someone grew up in such a community I think it is wonderful that she continues to wear one. But for you did not grow in a community that wears them or even seems to value wearing them what is motivating you to want to change?


In my community there are shpitzlech. Just not in my immediate family
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amother
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Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 11:28 am
amother Lily wrote:
Why would you want to do this? I understand wanting to cover more, or replace a wig with a more modest hair covering. I could see going from not covering hair to putting on a wig or switching from wigs to a fabric hair covering like a scarf or hat. I don’t understand specifically wanting to wear a shpitzel. It’s not more modest. You’re not doing the mitzva better than just covering your hair with a scarf. A shpitzel is something a specific group uses and will look a little different or strange if you’re not living among people who wear that. It will make you stand out. The whole point of tznius is not standing out.


Yes you’re right. For someone who isn’t affiliated with satmar, there’s nothing special about a Shpitzel. And even for someone who is satmar, the main point is to wear a shaitel (hair looking) alternative. It happens to be for me, I thought about other options, (plain tichel, hat ect) and decided on a Shpitzel because I identify with the satmar crowd and want to be seen as a satmar lady.
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amother
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Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 11:40 am
amother Celeste wrote:
Is blogging and having access to internet in sync with your values that move you towards putting on a shpitzel? Doesn't sound like same medreigah across the board.

There are 613 mitzvos. It's not all or nothing. If someone wants to improve in one area you don't ask them if they're perfect everywhere else. It's a tactic of the yetzer hora. Let her start where her heart desires and don't discourage a beautiful thing.
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amother
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Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 11:50 am
amother Bergamot wrote:
There are 613 mitzvos. It's not all or nothing. If someone wants to improve in one area you don't ask them if they're perfect everywhere else. It's a tactic of the yetzer hora. Let her start where her heart desires and don't discourage a beautiful thing.


Well said and so true! Thank you. And to be honest this whole thing has changed a lot of aspects of my Yiddishkiet for the better. Especially in regards to tznius.
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amother
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Post Tue, Nov 19 2024, 12:33 pm
OP this thread is a year old and I do not think you ever updated us, did you change to a shpitzel in the end ? wanna share about that?
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