If you generally keep CY, do you use OU-D formula?

amother

Cognac

Mon, Oct 21 2024, 12:39 pm

I think this is a difference in opinion between those who follow Chassidish poskim and those who are litvish.

Chassidim are makpid that a baby drink cholov yisroel even as newborns, but we are ok with giving our babies non chalav yisroel formula, if that's cheaper or better in some other way.

It is not considered timtum haleiv, which is what a previous poster was probably alluding to.

amother

↑ Apple

Mon, Oct 21 2024, 12:57 pm

amother Cognac wrote:

Timtum halev- dullness of the heart.
Sfeikus b’emunah- doubts your beliefs.

Two different things.

amother

Mintgreen

Mon, Oct 21 2024, 1:44 pm

We keep CY but give our kids OUD formula. We live in a larger OOT community but CY is still harder to come by and is more expensive. WIC covers our formula so needs to be on their list as well. Additionally, there might be an additional heter for any form of powdered milk that makes it different then regular non-CY products. Dont use this heter for ourselves, but for our baby’s formula it was an additional consideration.

amother

Winterberry

Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:54 am

We asked our rav, because where I live CY formula is a) often unavailable, and b) at least double the price. We are otherwise extremely makpid on CY. The rav said right away that not only is it completely fine, I can even wash the bottles with formula with our regular dishes that the adults/other kids use (I wouldve washed in the laundry or whatever).
As with everything, ask daas torah (not Imamother Laugh

)

amother

Wine

Tue, Oct 22 2024, 9:39 am

I tried cy first but my kids had dairy intolerances/allergy so ended up giving OUd for one and a parve formula that was apparently made in dairy equipment that also had oud. If you don't have a choice your Rav will 99.9% give you an ok..

amother

Oatmeal

Tue, Oct 22 2024, 9:55 am

Chassidish, gave OUD formula to a preemie who needed a special one, CY only for other healthy child.

amother

Goldenrod

Tue, Oct 22 2024, 10:17 am

amother OP wrote:

And what are the factors in your decision?

We wanted to stick to CY formula however my colicky baby only tolerated enfamil gentelease that's OUD
We just switched him off that onto regular formula since he's doing a lot better

amother

Rose

Tue, Oct 22 2024, 10:18 am

Chasidish here, my oldest was formula fed, and tried every CY formula, had issues with each one.
Did amazing on gentlease which is oud.
Asked a shaiyla, was told if tried all other options it’s ok.
My next one I gave as well, was having issues, but kid was nursed as well, so wasn’t that much.
Now I have a baby on CY formula, bh ok on it.
Each kid is different and sensitive to other things.

amother

Aquamarine

Tue, Oct 22 2024, 11:45 am

I voted that we give CY formula, but only because it's available and works for us. If we didn't have or it wasn't available, I'd give Chalav stam.

Case in point, I have an older child with medical issues who drinks Chalav stam pediasure daily.

amother

Lemon

Tue, Oct 22 2024, 11:53 am

I live in a place where cholov yisroel formula is readily available (I think you can even buy online nowadays) so no reason why not.
Yes, it's more expensive but so is cholov yisroel milk and cheese but I buy that so why wouldn't I buy the cholov yisroel formula.
If it wasn't readily available it would be different.
I do know someone that used to give soy formula because it was dairy equipment and not cholov akum

amother

Mauve

Tue, Oct 22 2024, 12:07 pm

amother Apple wrote:

Absolutely not.
Only give cholov yisroel.

Cholov Akum causes Sfeikis B’emunah.

Chalav Stam is not the same as chalav akum. You might need a little education before you speak. It is never a good idea to make statements, especially in public, about things you are not fully knowledgeable about.

If OU-D is mamsh traif,, how can you accept OU for anything at all?

amother

Seafoam

Tue, Oct 22 2024, 12:23 pm

amother Mauve wrote:

She probably doesn’t hold of Ou