Cameras in bathroom

amother

OP ↓

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 9:47 pm

My son just started school ( kindergarten), by orientation I took him to the bathroom and noticed that the bathroom stalls have a camera in each one ; directly aiming at the toilet . Im wondering if this is normal... Definitely not the way I grew up but I'm just checking if other schools have something similar and if this is the new norm.( Skl is in Lakewood)

giselle

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 9:47 pm

Um no definitely not normal!

tigerwife

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 9:49 pm

No way! Normal is by the sink area. Are you sure they were cameras?

amother

Ruby

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 9:49 pm

The biggest red flag here is the fact that they didn’t tell parents about it. No matter how valid the reason is to have it, it’s all out the window if you aren’t telling parents there are cameras in the bathrooms!

amother

Antiquewhite ↓

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 9:56 pm

Absolutely not okay at all! Camera's should be in the sink area.
Are you sure that they're Camera's & not air fresheners?

ra_mom

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 9:58 pm

Very bad sign.
Cameras should be in the washing areas/in the main area before the private stalls. Nothing within the stall should be visible.
This is an opening for anyone to look when they shouldn't.

amother

Rose

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 10:05 pm

Omg which place is this? I’d be horrified if it was my son’s cheder!

amother

Seafoam

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 10:12 pm

My son told me that they have it at the mikva, so I guess that’s the same thing.

BusyBoys ↓

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 10:27 pm

amother Seafoam wrote:

My son told me that they have it at the mikva, so I guess that’s the same thing.

This became commonplace to be able to check in the case of suspected s-xual assault/ abuse.

Very diff than in a daycare bathroom.
This gives the vibe of someone watching the cameras..

amother

Mintcream ↓

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 10:29 pm

Is this in a yeshiva or a daycare or what?

amother

Catmint

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 10:42 pm

A few years ago a rabbi who ran a program for girls at bar Ilan was caught he put a camera in the girks dorm
He got off
At Westchester day school a rabbi was caught with pictures of kids

amother

↑ OP

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 10:48 pm

The bathroom is specifically for the kindergarten... Does that help? I'm trying to be dan lkaf zchus..

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amother

↑ Mintcream

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 10:48 pm

I’d call whoever is in charge and demand answers.

LittleDucky

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 10:49 pm

Totally not normal.
Some schools have them outside the stalls/sink areas. So they know if more than 1 person went into a stall, if kids are messing around in the bathroom, ditching class etc.

No camera should be anywhere that will view anyone without clothing or in any sort of compromised position.
No excuses.

amother

Pewter ↓

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 11:13 pm

Is this for real?
If so this type of situation is no time for misplaced Dan lkaf zechus
Report immediately
Pull your kid out asap

Molly Weasley ↓

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 11:45 pm

amother Pewter wrote:

Is this for real?
If so this type of situation is no time for misplaced Dan lkaf zechus
Report immediately
Pull your kid out asap

Report? Because you don't think it's a good idea?

↑ Molly Weasley ↓

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 11:46 pm

amother Ruby wrote:

Red flag? Are you sure?

Did they hide it?

Rubber Duck

Mon, Sep 09 2024, 11:51 pm

Is it maybe to protect the kids? Since a lot of them might need help from the morahs..

↑ BusyBoys

Tue, Sep 10 2024, 12:40 am

amother Pewter wrote:

Is this for real?
If so this type of situation is no time for misplaced Dan lkaf zechus
Report immediately
Pull your kid out asap

The situation doesn’t sound ok, but no reason to panic like this..
OP can clarify with administration.
If they don’t give a straight answer I would get very nervous