Swimming in a mixed pool

amother

Tulip

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 2:08 pm

amother OP wrote:

Until what age would you feel comfortable having your kids swim with like a random older man or woman who happen to be using the pool? Ty

None? Who goes swimming with random old people of opposite genders and why are they in the pool at the same time as each other?

amother

Seagreen

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 2:10 pm

amother Tulip wrote:

None? Who goes swimming with random old people of opposite genders and why are they in the pool at the same time as each other?

Have you ever been to a hotel?

amother

↑ Khaki ↓

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 2:20 pm

amother Tulip wrote:

None? Who goes swimming with random old people of opposite genders and why are they in the pool at the same time as each other?

OP is asking about a hotel pool.

Ruchel ↓

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 2:45 pm

If everyone is tznius I'd go all the fam
If everyone is covered maybe not teen boys but kids and me
If people in bathing suit I'd go in tznius suit unless they're in monokini and I'd go alone

amother

↑ Kiwi ↓

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 2:49 pm

Obviously depends on the circumstance. My mother goes mixed swimming at the YMCA. She wouldn’t go on a pesach program with friends

amother

↑ Candycane ↓

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 2:50 pm

amother Kiwi wrote:

My rav and my parents rav both hold it’s fine and we are not modern

Can you post the source they use?

amother

↑ Kiwi

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 2:56 pm

amother Candycane wrote:

Can you post the source they use?

When there is no alternative and done for exercise in a tznius bath in suit… not for fun. Will ask for source

tulip3 ↓

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 3:05 pm

Read this, it's not as simple and there's leeway here.
https://www.deracheha.org/answ.....ming/

amother

Tan

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 3:22 pm

I was told that in a water park I can go on all slides and attractions that did not include going into a body of water with the opposite gender.
I was told going into the water at the beach is assur

amother

Mauve ↓

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 3:58 pm

Women and Girls wear tznius swimsuits with longer leggings so even if it rides up we are covered. Beach, pools, and waterparks.

Boys until bar mitzvah. After that, they dont go mixed swimming.

This is pretty standard where I live but yeah there are always stricter and more lenient opinions.

amother

Peach

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 4:50 pm

amother Mauve wrote:

Can you explain this logic to me. If you hold leggings is enough covering why wear longer skirts and if you don't why is it ok now. I genuinely don't understand it for over bas mitzvah girls but would love to Wink

amother

Taupe

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 4:54 pm

amother OP wrote:

At a beach it’s ok but a pool isn’t ok?

both are assur

amother

Garnet

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 6:32 pm

I was told by my pretty Makpid rov in lakewood that mixed swimming, water parks are all assur for girls (I think 9+?) even if girl is dressed tznius. But he says beach for girls is ok as each person is kind of doing their own thing. Not sure how to explain but this is what I was told. And yes I was shocked about the water parks! And it was a hard thing to stop going.

erm ↓

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 8:07 pm

amother Taupe wrote:

both are assur

There is a difference between a pool and beach. Reb Moisha paskened that a closed body of water like a pool is like your are touching anyone in the pool. An ocean is different. That is why going into a pool in your swim dress doesn't help if there is a man in the pool.

↑ erm

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 8:08 pm

amother Kiwi wrote:

My rav and my parents rav both hold it’s fine and we are not modern

You asked your reputable Rav if mixed swimming is fine and he said yes???
Please tell me a source for that.

sequoia

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 8:27 pm

I am personally acquainted with a heimish 85-year-old lady who goes swimming for exercise in a normal bathing suit. She does not care what anyone thinks lol, she survived Siberia Smile

amother

↑ Khaki ↓

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 8:50 pm

erm wrote:

You asked your reputable Rav if mixed swimming is fine and he said yes???
Please tell me a source for that.

Some rabbi's pasken that if one must go swimming for health reasons, and there's no separate swimming pool available, they may go mixed swimming. But not for pleasure, only for health reasons.

amother

Sienna

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 8:53 pm

amother Tan wrote:

I was told that in a water park I can go on all slides and attractions that did not include going into a body of water with the opposite gender.
I was told going into the water at the beach is assur

A pool I know, a beach if you're far from the next person is a problem?

amother

↑ Candycane ↓

Sun, Jun 23 2024, 8:54 pm

amother Khaki wrote:

Some rabbi's pasken that if one must go swimming for health reasons, and there's no separate swimming pool available, they may go mixed swimming. But not for pleasure, only for health reasons.

How is this relevant? Going on vacation to a resort does not fall in this category. Which is what op is asking about. That’s leisure swimming for fun. Being that so many frum people have pools that they rent out nowadays I can’t see this ever being the only option anyway.