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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:29 am
#BestBubby wrote:
The proof that conversion therapy doesn't work is that is the opinion of mental health pprofessionals.

But mental health professionals have NO FREEDOM to express their opinion. They have to repeat leftist propaganda.

Charcoal, can a mental health professionals say on mass media that " a man cannot be a woman" and not lose their license???

Let's see if you answer that question!


I don't understand that sentence.

I have no idea about mental health professional regulation.

I do know about conversion therapy.

The RCA very clearly came out against a Jewish Conversion therapy organization. That should be enough for you.
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:30 am
amother [ Jade ] wrote:
Most of what you wrote here is misinformed.

Can I ask, what is the obsession some people have with these issues?! Especially if are heading.

ing that doesn’t personally affect them. You started this conversation saying how heartbroken you are by this. Tell me, are you also so heartbroken that there are children in third world countries dying every day of malnutrition and accidents in mines?


Jade do you only post about world hunger and mining accidents?

You are trying to shut down a discussion that is exposing the evil of the left and their trans agenda.
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:32 am
#BestBubby wrote:
Jade do you only post about world hunger and mining accidents?

You are trying to shut down a discussion that is exposing the evil of the left and their trans agenda.


uch no one is exposing anything. All this can be heard at nauseum on other social media outlets - dedicated to this topic.
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:33 am
amother [ Charcoal ] wrote:
I don't understand that sentence.

I have no idea about mental health professional regulation.

I do know about conversion therapy.


Just answer this question.

Can a mental health professional say on mass media "a man can't become a woman" and not lose their license?

That's just a yes or no answer. Answer it Charcoal.
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:33 am
#BestBubby wrote:
Jade do you only post about world hunger and mining accidents?

You are trying to shut down a discussion that is exposing the evil of the left and their trans agenda.


Classic. Every time someone brings up a though-provoking point counter to their beliefs they are told that their “shutting down” the discussion.
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:36 am
#BestBubby wrote:
Just answer this question.

Can a mental health professional say on mass media "a man can't become a woman" and not lose their license?

That's just a yes or no answer. Answer it Charcoal.

If they believed a man could become a woman, wouldn't that (combined with TWAW and TMAM) mean that a FTM could just become a woman instead of transitioning to male?
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:36 am
amother [ Charcoal ] wrote:
uch no one is exposing anything. All this can be heard at nauseum on other social media outlets - dedicated to this topic.


I wonder what Charcoal's agenda is. How interesting that she is so worked up about this thread.
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:37 am
amother [ Jade ] wrote:
Classic. Every time someone brings up a though-provoking point counter to their beliefs they are told that their “shutting down” the discussion.
Puke


You think your unrelated and disrespectful comment about starvation is a "counter" to anything I said? Classic leftist logic.
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:38 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
I wonder what Charcoal's agenda is. How interesting that she is so worked up about this thread.


I'm procrastinating.
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:39 am
Implying that people are not allowed to care about the topic of discussion because other issues fill the caring quota is in fact an attempt to shut down the discussion.
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:39 am
#BestBubby wrote:
Just answer this question.

Can a mental health professional say on mass media "a man can't become a woman" and not lose their license?

That's just a yes or no answer. Answer it Charcoal.


I literally have no idea.
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:39 am
amother [ Charcoal ] wrote:
I'm procrastinating.


Yeah but you didn't choose the recipe thread.
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:41 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Yeah but you didn't choose the recipe thread.


Correct. No agenda. Just wasting time on the internet. (I'm also not at all worked up).
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:41 am
Jade never met me, yet questions my motives because I didn't discuss every tragedy in the world. How bizzarre. She is probably the type to invalidate all pain because it's not "as bad" as something else.
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:41 am
amother [ Charcoal ] wrote:
I don't understand that sentence.

I have no idea about mental health professional regulation.

I do know about conversion therapy.

The RCA very clearly came out against a Jewish Conversion therapy organization. That should be enough for you.


The article you referenced stated the RCA came out against conversion therapy because that was the opinion of mental health professionals that conversion therapy doesn't work and is harmful.

But mental health professionals are not allowed to have their own opinions. Mental health professionals must repeat Leftist opinions or lose their license!

So the opinion. Of mental health professionals is meaningless and RCA made a mistake in believing that this was the FREE AND INDEPENDENT opinion of mental health professionals. It is opinion, of the leftists opposed to Conversion Therapy that mental health professionals are FORCED to repeat.

charcoal, can a mental health professional say on mass media "a man cannot become a woman" and not lose their license???
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:42 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Charcoal never met me, yet questions my motives because I didn't discuss every tragedy in the world. How bizzarre. She is probably the type to invalidate all pain because it's not "as bad" as something else.


That wasn't me. That was another poster.
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:43 am
amother [ Charcoal ] wrote:
Correct. No agenda. Just wasting time on the internet. (I'm also not at all worked up).


In choosing to waste time on the internet, you chose THIS thread, and THIS position on the thread. It's telling. Or are you saying you misrepresented your beliefs just for entertainment?
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:44 am
chanatron1000 wrote:
If they believed a man could become a woman, wouldn't that (combined with TWAW and TMAM) mean that a FTM could just become a woman instead of transitioning to male?


Of course not, because that would require no surgery = no profit!
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amother
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:45 am
#BestBubby wrote:
The article you referenced stated the RCA came out against conversion therapy because that was the opinion of mental health professionals that conversion therapy doesn't work and is harmful.

But mental health professionals are not allowed to have their own opinions. Mental health professionals must repeat Leftist opinions or lose their license!

So the opinion. Of mental health professionals is meaningless and RCA made a mistake in believing that this was the FREE AND INDEPENDENT opinion of mental health professionals. It is opinion, of the leftists opposed to Conversion Therapy that mental health professionals are FORCED to repeat.

charcoal, can a mental health professional say on mass media "a man cannot become a woman" and not lose their license???


Quote:
Based on consultation with a wide range of mental health experts and therapists who informed us of the lack of scientifically rigorous studies that support the effectiveness of therapies to change s-xual orientation, a review of literature written by experts and major medical and mental health organizations, and based upon reports of the negative and, at times, deleterious consequences to clients of some of the interventions endorsed by JONAH, the Rabbinical Council of America decided in 2011, as part of an overall statement on the Jewish attitude towards homosexuality, to withdraw its original letter referencing JONAH.


The bolded was why I brought in the article - because you challenged me on the effectiveness of Conversion Therapy.

I again continue to have no idea about the therapists and licensure.
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Post Wed, Jul 06 2022, 11:46 am
amother [ Charcoal ] wrote:
I literally have no idea.


You are being disingenuous.

You know any mental health professional who publicly states "a man cannot become a woman" would lose their license.

Same with any mental health professional who supported conversion therapy. So RCA based their decision against Conversion Therapy based on mental health professionals who are FORBIDDEN from supporting Conversion Therapy!!!
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