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DrMom
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Sun, Oct 11 2020, 8:17 pm
youngishbear wrote: | It's a strange virus.
Apparently, there are superspreaders who tend to give it to everyone within their circle and beyond, and others who barely share their germs.
Problem is, we haven't figured out who's who, yet.
https://www.scientificamerican.....ead1/ |
The article suggests that it's not who you are, but what you do and where that matters most.
Quote: | Scientists have identified factors that catalyze such events, including large crowd sizes, close contact between people and confined spaces with poor ventilation. Current evidence suggests that it is mostly circumstances such as these, rather than the biology of specific individuals, that sets the stage for extreme spreading of the novel coronavirus. |
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youngishbear
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Sun, Oct 11 2020, 8:21 pm
I can't figure out how to quote a quoted post.
You're right that it seems to be more about behavior than biology, but I think more recent research leaves the question open. I have to spend some time searching for that particular article.
I also should look up the percentage likelihood of transmission within the same household, which was far lower than I expected.
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amother
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Sun, Oct 11 2020, 8:44 pm
I had it in April, and we continued our day to day life as usual. DH didn’t get it then, but he caught it now after rosh hashana.
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amother
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Sun, Oct 11 2020, 8:46 pm
youngishbear wrote: |
I also should look up the percentage likelihood of transmission within the same household, which was far lower than I expected. |
This to me is crazy. I mean....
Women here are saying they fully interacted with their infected spouses ... Hoping to get sick to no avail.... No sick no antibodies.
But that this disease is so infectous that if you don't wear a mask even in the street you should be considered a danger to society and a murderer. (Extreme but apparently the current rhetoric)
So what is it???????!!!?!!
Are these family members just get FALSE NEGATIVES on their tests?
Are scientists and media manipulating the little bit of information for G knows what stupidity?
I feel as if we are trying to build our own version of a migdal bavel ... With masks, plastic, degrading rhetoric, cruelty.
Whatever "chochma" has been brought down about this disease we lap up like a bunch of stray animals ...
Think about it so many families deliberately or not trying to get sick ... And nothing.
And yet ... So much divisiveness out in the streets. What does this mean????
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amother
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Sun, Oct 11 2020, 11:07 pm
amother [ Lavender ] wrote: | 100% normal
DH - tested positive - quarantined for 10 days
I tested negative - quarantined for 14 days
Intimate- yes but only when he felt good |
Us too Sam's thing
But only intimate once fever was completely gone and he felt strong enough because covid took a toll on my Dh
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WitchKitty
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Sun, Oct 11 2020, 11:30 pm
My aunt made a family barbeque in May. (I think it might have been illegal then but she's not the type to care) She didn't know at that point that she was sick, but her 4 daughters got it from her, and 2 sons.
Another son was there but SD. He didn't get it.
Her husband tested negative, and her 12 yr old son too (we don't really have antibody tests here)
Since they figured that everyone had it anyway, they made a nice big (illegal) Bar Mitzva 2 months later, and that's when the Bar Mitzva bochur caught it.
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 12:12 am
My husband had it. We totally didn’t social distant from him, ate & drank from his food & drinks... neither me or kids got it bH! I’m blood type AB+. I think this virus is such a lesson for us that everything is totally & completely in Hashem hands!!
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youngishbear
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 12:17 am
amother [ Chartreuse ] wrote: | This to me is crazy. I mean....
Women here are saying they fully interacted with their infected spouses ... Hoping to get sick to no avail.... No sick no antibodies.
But that this disease is so infectous that if you don't wear a mask even in the street you should be considered a danger to society and a murderer. (Extreme but apparently the current rhetoric)
So what is it???????!!!?!!
Are these family members just get FALSE NEGATIVES on their tests?
Are scientists and media manipulating the little bit of information for G knows what stupidity?
I feel as if we are trying to build our own version of a migdal bavel ... With masks, plastic, degrading rhetoric, cruelty.
Whatever "chochma" has been brought down about this disease we lap up like a bunch of stray animals ...
Think about it so many families deliberately or not trying to get sick ... And nothing.
And yet ... So much divisiveness out in the streets. What does this mean???? |
As mentioned upthread, there are some superspreaders, but some people don't pass it on to more than 1 other person. The mystery of who and how and why has not yet been solved.
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 5:22 am
I got it end of March/April. I had no idea I had Covid since I kept looking out for fever or coughing and just had headaches, chest pain and shortness of breath. I thought it was all stress related symptoms from my dh loosing his job and my elderly parents who flew in for a wedding and got stuck in my house for months..Since I had no idea I worked as usual, took care of kids and went to mikva as usual...I had high antibodies and dh none..I am blood type O and he is A..
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 5:28 am
amother [ Chartreuse ] wrote: | This to me is crazy. I mean....
Women here are saying they fully interacted with their infected spouses ... Hoping to get sick to no avail.... No sick no antibodies.
But that this disease is so infectous that if you don't wear a mask even in the street you should be considered a danger to society and a murderer. (Extreme but apparently the current rhetoric)
So what is it???????!!!?!!
Are these family members just get FALSE NEGATIVES on their tests?
Are scientists and media manipulating the little bit of information for G knows what stupidity?
I feel as if we are trying to build our own version of a migdal bavel ... With masks, plastic, degrading rhetoric, cruelty.
Whatever "chochma" has been brought down about this disease we lap up like a bunch of stray animals ...
Think about it so many families deliberately or not trying to get sick ... And nothing.
And yet ... So much divisiveness out in the streets. What does this mean???? |
My neighbor caught it from her walking partner. None of her grand kids daughter or son in law who live with her caught it from her. I really think
Some people are super spreaders
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:05 am
aimhabanim wrote: | Super woman 😀!!!!! |
Literally the only thing that kept me going was me just telling myself over and over “it’s not worth the help if I get sick now, too”. Bh, we had a beautiful pesach, and my husband was feeling all better by the first Seder, so he got to join us!
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:12 am
DH got it in March, my kid got it too (mildly.) they have antibodies. In the house I went on as usual. Didnt even obsess about the handwashing. I didnt get sick or have antibodies. I am Type O and the rest of the family is type A. We do hear now of spouses getting it now when the other got it in March.
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:15 am
youngishbear wrote: | I can't figure out how to quote a quoted post.
You're right that it seems to be more about behavior than biology, but I think more recent research leaves the question open. I have to spend some time searching for that particular article.
I also should look up the percentage likelihood of transmission within the same household, which was far lower than I expected. |
20%
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:18 am
amother [ Chartreuse ] wrote: | This to me is crazy. I mean....
Women here are saying they fully interacted with their infected spouses ... Hoping to get sick to no avail.... No sick no antibodies.
But that this disease is so infectous that if you don't wear a mask even in the street you should be considered a danger to society and a murderer. (Extreme but apparently the current rhetoric)
So what is it???????!!!?!!
Are these family members just get FALSE NEGATIVES on their tests?
Are scientists and media manipulating the little bit of information for G knows what stupidity?
I feel as if we are trying to build our own version of a migdal bavel ... With masks, plastic, degrading rhetoric, cruelty.
Whatever "chochma" has been brought down about this disease we lap up like a bunch of stray animals ...
Think about it so many families deliberately or not trying to get sick ... And nothing.
And yet ... So much divisiveness out in the streets. What does this mean???? |
I think the bolded sums it up
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Chayalle
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:19 am
My elderly neighbor got COVID right before Pesach. She and her husband used separate bedrooms and bathrooms, kept to opposite sides of the house for the whole Pesach, for which they were alone.
After Pesach, they both tested positive for antibodies.
As for us, DH and I both had the same symptoms at the same time (in March). Both coughed for a month. No fever but it sure felt like it - chills. Lost sense of smell. Joint pain. etc..etc....
I have antibodies and he doesn't.
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:23 am
Chayalle wrote: | My elderly neighbor got COVID right before Pesach. She and her husband used separate bedrooms and bathrooms, kept to opposite sides of the house for the whole Pesach, for which they were alone.
After Pesach, they both tested positive for antibodies.
As for us, DH and I both had the same symptoms at the same time (in March). Both coughed for a month. No fever but it sure felt like it - chills. Lost sense of smell. Joint pain. etc..etc....
I have antibodies and he doesn't. |
Most people I know IRL never had antibodies even if they had the virus. I think antibodies testing is useless.
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:47 am
DS had it then DH got it. We didn't separate from them because it simply wasn't possible in our living quarters. Of course no hugging and kissing, but we ate together, sat together etc without proper distance. DH surely got it from DS but the rest of us didn't get it which is truly a mystery to me.
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imasoftov
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:48 am
amother [ Olive ] wrote: | Most people I know IRL never had antibodies even if they had the virus. I think antibodies testing is useless. |
I am constantly amazed at the things people know about others. I have no idea what anyone's antibody status is or any other test result.
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:56 am
amother [ Chartreuse ] wrote: | This to me is crazy. I mean....
Women here are saying they fully interacted with their infected spouses ... Hoping to get sick to no avail.... No sick no antibodies.
But that this disease is so infectous that if you don't wear a mask even in the street you should be considered a danger to society and a murderer. (Extreme but apparently the current rhetoric)
So what is it???????!!!?!!
Are these family members just get FALSE NEGATIVES on their tests?
Are scientists and media manipulating the little bit of information for G knows what stupidity?
I feel as if we are trying to build our own version of a migdal bavel ... With masks, plastic, degrading rhetoric, cruelty.
Whatever "chochma" has been brought down about this disease we lap up like a bunch of stray animals ...
Think about it so many families deliberately or not trying to get sick ... And nothing.
And yet ... So much divisiveness out in the streets. What does this mean???? | this thread is targeted to people who did not spread it to their spouse. Couples who both got it wouldn’t be represented here.
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amother
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Mon, Oct 12 2020, 6:58 am
amother [ Amethyst ] wrote: | DS had it then DH got it. We didn't separate from them because it simply wasn't possible in our living quarters. Of course no hugging and kissing, but we ate together, sat together etc without proper distance. DH surely got it from DS but the rest of us didn't get it which is truly a mystery to me. | how do you know he got it from day, maybe they got it from same person
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