Do you go to the mikvah erev Yom Kippur?

Yudit

Mon, Aug 20 2007, 4:56 pm

I dont have the time to go well maybe this year I will make time .My friend told me that she goes to the mens is that common and that people could get pregnant because there is sperms in the water

Mimisinger ↓

Mon, Aug 20 2007, 5:04 pm

Oy Yehudit - you cannot get pregnant from going in water that men have been in shock

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One, I hope men are not shall we say, doing things in which sperm will emerge...Two, the sperm will die in air, or in varying temperatures, Three, the water does not go up into you....

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As for the Original Post, I have heard that women go, but I didn't know it was so wide-spread. It's def. not my minhag to go and I know some say it's problematic b/c people get confused with nidda and mikva, etc., etc.

↑ shalhevet

Mon, Aug 20 2007, 11:10 pm

Mimisinger wrote:

Oy Yehudit - you cannot get pregnant from going in water that men have been in shock

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One, I hope men are not shall we say, doing things in which sperm will emerge...Two, the sperm will die in air, or in varying temperatures, Three, the water does not go up into you....

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But the gemorra says it can happen and Yehudit is right halachically - women are not allowed to use the men's mikva for this reason. (You can continue your discussion on what you think the facts are on the Torah and science thread...) BTW, many of the halachos of IVF etc are learned from this discussion in the gemorra.

TzenaRena

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 12:47 am

chocolate moose wrote:

But that's not how we do it.

I hate to disappoint you, but not everything listed in Sefer HaMinhagim or the A.R. Shlulchan Aruch is poskened or done the way it’s written.

I don't know where your info is from, but it most def. is our minhag to go Erev Yom Kippur for women, and I do. There was only a question about girls going, and that's a separate thing.

(I've been going since a teen as per minhag in our family, recently, it has been discouraged for girls to go on Erev YK.)

mimivan ↓

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 1:34 am

shalhevet wrote:

Mimisinger wrote:

Oy Yehudit - you cannot get pregnant from going in water that men have been in shock

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One, I hope men are not shall we say, doing things in which sperm will emerge...Two, the sperm will die in air, or in varying temperatures, Three, the water does not go up into you....

shock

That is fascinating! Thanks Shalhevet. Very Happy

hadasa ↓

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 4:11 am

Although the idea is mentioned in the Gemara, and that is what some Halachos of IVF are based on, we were told by a Rav that there is no Halachic problem going to a men's Mikvah if the women's is unavailable for some reason.

Concerning Erev Yom Kippur, I don't know if there is a general "Lubavitch Minhag". Some Lubavitchers go, others don't.

shoshb ↓

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 4:26 am

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Having not learned the gemora inside, Shalhevet I'm not sure if the gemara says it can happen, or just discusses the implications WERE IT TO HAPPEN. There are instances where the gemara discusses extreme, outragous cases that are not necessarily realistic, but we extrapolate Halacha from them.
Does the gemara say that Isha Shenisabra BeAmbati ACTUALLY happened? Or propose it as a theoretical case?

↑ Mimisinger

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 4:30 am

I also haven't learned it inside, but according to dh, it was said that it DID happen. However, many times, we learn things from the gemorrah, etc. that happened then, but doesn't happen now for other reasons. Be it hargasha, etc.

Why are somethings ok to say they just don't happen now, and others do?

↑ chocolate moose ↓

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 11:06 am

TzenaRena wrote:

I don't know where your info is from, but it most def. is our minhag to go Erev Yom Kippur for women, and I do.

maybe you were taught by someone not org. Lub. or maybe I was., anyway, that's what I learned.

↑ mimivan ↓

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 12:28 pm

But even if it is extremely rare, one in a million chance, it is understandable why it would be a problem because it would create a mamzer...

Although Tzena Rena said it is mutar if a woman's mikveh is not available, so I am confused, especially since toiveling on Erev Y.K is nto as essential as toiveling to on mikveh night.

↑ mimivan

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 1:01 pm

yes, it is for teshuvah why would it be allowed to go a men's mikveh if none else were available. What kind of teshuvah would that be, if there is a risk?

↑ shoshb

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 1:38 pm

Probably because the risk is so small as to be negligible.
Also, I don't know if Hadasa's Rav was reffering to toiveling in a men's mikva for a regular tevilla, or for this Erev Y"K minhag.

↑ hadasa

Tue, Aug 21 2007, 6:31 pm

It was for a regular Tevilah, not for myself, and this woman's husband was worrying "What if she gets pregnant tonight, how do I know if the baby's mine?", but the Rav said not to worry about it.

↑ amother ↓

Thu, Aug 23 2007, 5:32 am

I went in Crown Heights on Erev Yom Kippur and the line was quite long.
I suppose it depends on your family's tradition within Chabad. Many women do go and some say it is not their Minhag, to each their own... It is a Minhag, not Halacha, which is why you get to go with barely any preparation.

My question is how many times do LUB women dip on Milkvah night. I have heard many variations, do what you mother does, three dips, seven dips, fourteen...

Does anyone have any idea what most LUB women do?

↑ chocolate moose

Thu, Aug 23 2007, 7:04 am

amother wrote:

I suppose it depends on your family's tradition within Chabad.

I have also been to the mikvah erey yom kippur. but just once.

I suppose theminhag is along with, you see some women with white tichlach on their sheitals Y.K in shul if they came from families where the motehr wore that . . .

gryp ↓

Thu, Aug 23 2007, 7:38 am

I was taught by my kallah class teacher that it is not Minhag Chabad to go Erev YK, so I never went. But everyone else I know goes, so every year I consider going but it never really works out, Erev YK is so hectic.

↑ amother

Thu, Sep 20 2007, 1:04 pm

jewgal84 wrote:

I go.

It's the most amazing, purifying, inspiring and uplifiting feeling.

I agree...I am so upset that I won't be able to go this year cause I got my period. Sad

↑ gryp ↓

Mon, Oct 01 2007, 2:56 pm

GR wrote:

Btw, I started this year to go to the mikveh on Erev YK. It was quite an interesting experience.

Tehilla

Mon, Oct 01 2007, 3:11 pm

I went for the first time. It was so amazing and spiritual. And what a connection with the other women there!

My kallah teacher never mentioned it, but I first heard about it here and asked around. So how very happy I am that I did so!