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amother
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 Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:27 pm
I feel like this is not right but maybe there’s more to it that I don’t know.
My son’s yeshiva is doing a fundraiser now and as an incentive for the boys, if they raise $5,000, those boys will go on a yeshiva sponsored trip to Dubai.
This alone makes me raise my eyebrows but of course there are so many other factors.
I pay $24,000 in tuition for my son to learn in Israel for a year. Where is all the money going? And why is it an appropriate incentive to take the boys who do collect that amount of money to Dubai?
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amother
Dill
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:30 pm
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It's not ok. Dubai? For raising money for yeshiva? I'm so over the fundraiser culture
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amother
Daffodil
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:32 pm
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I agree with you. Also why Dubai especially what happened to the Chabad rabbi there recently? It doesn’t seem so safe
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effess
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:32 pm
Bad chinuch
ETA: also terrible waste of tzedakah money or the very least, tuition money
Last edited by effess on Mon, Dec 23 2024, 5:07 pm; edited 1 time in total
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amother
Tangerine
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:35 pm
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Most school I know do six flags or snow tubing as an incentive but Dubai sounds really a bit much
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allthingsblue
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:35 pm
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I’d be very upset about this
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PinkFridge
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:37 pm
I decided to delete my comment.
OP, you need to contact the hanhalah.
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BH Yom Yom
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:39 pm
Definitely not okay, and risky in terms of safety also.
Aside from the safety issue - sounds like a waste of fundraising money if the money is supposed to be used for legit yeshiva expenses.
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Success10
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:39 pm
It sounds like they are flying out of Israel, so it’s not as expensive as flying from the US.
Last edited by Success10 on Tue, Dec 24 2024, 1:51 am; edited 1 time in total
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Bethany85
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:44 pm
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I’m usually the live and let live type. But this is just… wow. So much wrong I don’t know where to start.
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amother
Bluebell
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:51 pm
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I wonder if this is the same yeshiva that took the boys to the Waldorf in yerushalyim if they met their fundraising goal last year. (Am American yeshiva in Isreal) I think it’s terrible chinuch.
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amother
Babyblue
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 4:52 pm
| amother Bluebell wrote: | | I wonder if this is the same yeshiva that took the boys to the Waldorf in yerushalyim if they met their fundraising goal last year. (Am American yeshiva in Isreal) I think it’s terrible chinuch. |
At least that’s going to yerushalayim - what’s the spirituality of Dubai ?!
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Elfrida
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 5:04 pm
| amother Babyblue wrote: | | At least that’s going to yerushalayim - what’s the spirituality of Dubai ?! |
They're already in the kedusha of Yerushalayim. (The OP said she was paying $24,000 for tuition in Israel.) The Waldorf was just luxury.
Last year, Dubai would have been inadvisable because of the war. This year it's just inadvisable!
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bookstore15
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 6:18 pm
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Wow. You should speak to the hanhalah. That's ridiculous.
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MiracleMama
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 6:21 pm
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I'm so hoping you misunderstood what is actually happening. This sounds so weirdly inappropriate that it's actually hard to believe.
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amother
Mint
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 6:23 pm
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Crazy! I can understand if reward was historical trip to Europe or Ukraine. Im not promoting that and I dont think necessary. But Dubai???? Maybe your son is playing you???
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amother
Natural
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 6:26 pm
If this was my son I’d want to take him out of yeshiva. I said I’d want, not that I would, because it can be hard to get into a different yeshiva. If my son was settled in this one and learning well I’d hesitate to make him switch but I’d for sure talk to him about this and would discuss with dh.
In Judaism the end doesn’t justify the means. Fundraising is a valid goal but I would want the chinuch of their talmidim to be the yeshiva’s top goal. This is terrible chinuch on too many levels to list. I’m sure everyone else can figure it out on their own.
I would tell ds before he gets involved in the campaign that dh and I don’t allow him to travel to Dubai regardless of how much he raises.
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amother
Kiwi
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 6:29 pm
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Maybe a trip to Europe to Kivrei Tzaddikim would be appropriate but Dubai?!?
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amother
Amethyst
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 6:30 pm
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Wow this is so not ok and I hope this wasn’t the yeshiva I just donated to. I’m not interested in financing trips to Dubai
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CPenzias
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Mon, Dec 23 2024, 7:44 pm
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My son is in yeshiva in Israel this year and they have an optional Poland trip. No one had to raise money. If you want to go, you pay. If you don't want to go, stay in yeshiva. (Bh my mom funded most of it so he's going but I couldn't go as a kid)
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