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amother
Chestnut
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 Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:04 pm
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Yes there are but I couldn't tell you which group. They wouldn't call it minhag though. They consider it Halacha.
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amother
Chocolate
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:04 pm
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Which halacha do they base it on? Which group?
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simcha12plus
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:05 pm
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some of the direct descendants of the Shalach Hakadosh, Harav Yeshayahu Haleivi Horowitz. They have a kabbalah from him that he saw a turkey eating prey and since we do not eat birds of prey, his descendants should abstain from eating turkey.
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amother
Winterberry
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:07 pm
| happy7 wrote: | | some of the direct descendants of the Shalach Hakadosh, Harav Yeshayahu Haleivi Horowitz. They have a kabbalah from him that he saw a turkey eating prey and since we do not eat birds of prey, his descendants should abstain from eating turkey. |
These are the people. It's not specific to a sect, rather descendents. But I never heard that explanation, I honestly don't know why.
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amother
Lightcoral
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:14 pm
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My sister doesn’t (because her husband is a descendant of the shlah).
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upwards
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:36 pm
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Talmidim of Rabbi Herschel Schachter at YU don't eat turkey
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amother
Lawngreen
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:43 pm
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Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky and many others did not eat turkey due to the lack of mesorah that it is a kosher bird.
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amother
Snowflake
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:47 pm
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My husband’s family doesn’t. He’s a yekke if that makes a difference.
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Rappel
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:52 pm
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I'm curious: do they not eat turkey, or do they consider a kitchen that cooks turkey to be unkosher? There's a big difference there
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amother
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:58 pm
| Rappel wrote: | | I'm curious: do they not eat turkey, or do they consider a kitchen that cooks turkey to be unkosher? There's a big difference there |
As a descendant of shaloh we don't eat turkey but would eat things even from on same platter as turkey just not the actual turkey and don't consider a kitchen that cooked turkey not kosher at all!
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amother
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 11:02 pm
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This is really interesting. I know a couple of people that eat only turkey and no chicken
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kenz
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 11:02 pm
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Wow, I have never heard of this before.
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Rappel
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 11:06 pm
| amother Narcissus wrote: | | As a descendant of shaloh we don't eat turkey but would eat things even from on same platter as turkey just not the actual turkey and don't consider a kitchen that cooked turkey not kosher at all! |
Thank you. May I ask why? Is the "predatory turkey" story not part of your mesorah?
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amother
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 11:10 pm
| amother Bone wrote: | | This is really interesting. I know a couple of people that eat only turkey and no chicken |
Who
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amother
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 11:57 pm
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2 of my neighbor, my nephew. They are all run of the mill chassidish boro park
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amother
Tulip
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Sun, Aug 04 2024, 12:03 am
| amother Bone wrote: | | 2 of my neighbor, my nephew. They are all run of the mill chassidish boro park |
Did your nephew take it on himself? If so, it's not really a family mesorah.
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Green Tea
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Sun, Aug 04 2024, 12:07 am
| amother Winterberry wrote: | | These are the people. It's not specific to a sect, rather descendents. But I never heard that explanation, I honestly don't know why. |
OP I know a chassidish yerushalmi girl who told me that their family and community davka buy turkey from specific hechsherim because it’s “cleaner” than other foul. If I see her again I can ask her about this.
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amother
Gold
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Sun, Aug 04 2024, 12:13 am
| upwards wrote: | | Talmidim of Rabbi Herschel Schachter at YU don't eat turkey |
I came here to say this. My brother and his family don't eat turkey but they will eat in a home that does.
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amother
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Sun, Aug 04 2024, 12:39 am
| Rappel wrote: | | Thank you. May I ask why? Is the "predatory turkey" story not part of your mesorah? |
It is part of the menorah as the reason we don't eat it but to my understanding the Shaloh didn't declare it not kosher just said he asks that his descendants not eat it. At least that's the way I was told. Which is why we don't eat the actual turkey but I would eat for example salami that was on the same platter as turkey and I would eat in from a kitchen that cooked turkey I just wouldn't eat the actual turkey
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