Whole roasted cauliflower- how is it kosher

Bnei Berak 10 ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 8:53 am

amother Lightcoral wrote:

None of these companies sell a "whole" cauliflower - they can't. It wouldn't be kosher.

With one exeption: cauliflower in israel that comes from bug free growing.
It could be that one needs to break to up in order to check.

amother

Bluebonnet ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 8:55 am

amother Plum wrote:

What about whole cabbage heads? I see many recipes of sliced purple cabbage I would love to try, how do you check that?

Some people hold that if it's a very fresh head and the leaves are tightly packed you need to just check the first 2 layers and if they are clear you don't need to check the rest

amother

Pewter

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 8:55 am

amother Stoneblue wrote:

Many times I see things that aren’t kosher in the Jewish magazines . Like strawberries with the green thing on top , whole asparagus( they don’t sell it frozen whole ) and whole mini peppers ( you need to cut the top off now )!

We hold that you can but fresh asparagus (not only frozen) but you need to cut off all the triangles.

amother

↑ Quince

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 9:18 am

amother Pewter wrote:

We hold that you can but fresh asparagus (not only frozen) but you need to cut off all the triangles.

Lol and to me that's pointless what's an asparagus if not for the tops

amother

Apricot

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 9:20 am

amother Quince wrote:

Lol and to me that's pointless what's an asparagus if not for the tops

Last I checked, white asparagus doesnt have to be checked so when I want whole asparagus that’s what I get.

amother

Smokey ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 9:22 am

Bnei Berak 10 wrote:

With one exeption: cauliflower in israel that comes from bug free growing.
It could be that one needs to break to up in order to check.

I buy Badatz Eidah Hachareidis greenhouse grown cabbage.
It still says "חובה להפריד עלים"

amother

↑ Stoneblue ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 10:20 am

amother Pewter wrote:

We hold that you can but fresh asparagus (not only frozen) but you need to cut off all the triangles.

Right but in the pictures the triangles aren’t cut off

amother

↑ Stoneblue ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 10:21 am

amother Pearl wrote:

It is possible to clean strawberries with the leaves attached, it's just much simpler to remove. I know that the hashgacha in my neighborhood that everyone uses does this. it's usually for a very fancy platter with a small number of whole strawberries as decoration
And the kashrus guidelines that I follow say that peppers are not currently an issue, but I'd be happy to know if that's an issue.

Curious, What kashrus guidelines say that peppers isn’t an issue

amother

Cerulean ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 10:26 am

Throw the tomatoes but bugs are overrated. I don’t mean it’s ok to eat bugs, I mean that the whole “bug free” vegetable industry is mostly a scam and very often the “bug free” vegetables you’re paying triple the amount for do actually have plenty of bugs, but either they pretend they don’t see them or they they rely on far fetched loophole heterim because of “financial loss”. Think frozen broccoli and more.

There are also some vegetable brands that are just as likely to be bug free as the “kosher” brands but the hashgachos won’t give their stamp of approval cuz it means the kosher companies will lose money. Some triple washed spring mixes, etc.

Bugs that are not visible to the naked eye are allowed to be eaten. Let’s not forget that.

I know personally from insiders in the industry.

amother

↑ Stoneblue

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 10:29 am

amother Cerulean wrote:

I’ve checked Costcos triple washed broccoli , it was infested with bugs . I don’t think what you’re saying is true . Same with triple wash spring mix, I have definitely seen bugs

amother

↑ Cerulean

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 10:33 am

amother Stoneblue wrote:

I’ve checked Costcos triple washed broccoli , it was infested with bugs . I don’t think what you’re saying is true . Same with triple wash spring mix, I have definitely seen bugs

I wasn’t referring to fresh broccoli when I mentioned triple washed. But yes many non organic triple washed spring mixes have the same infestation levels as “kosher” spring mixes. An item only needs to be checked when it is “muchzak b’tolaim”. Have you ever checked “kosher” spring mix?

And insiders will know that many Jewish frozen broccoli brands are notorious for having infested batches.

amother

↑ Dill ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 12:04 pm

amother Cerulean wrote:

My DH works in this field and what you're saying is just not true.
If you checked a bodek bag of frozen broccoli and found it infested, I can't believe the company didn't take action to remove batch from the market.
(This is pure lashon hara btw. Motsi shem ra?)

mizle10 ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 12:10 pm

amother Pearl wrote:

From the CRC: All bell peppers must have the crown/stem area removed and the rest of the outside of the pepper be rinsed and rubbed (especially in the grooves) under running water. This is true for mini peppers as well. They may not be roasted whole. The crown/stem area must be chopped off, and then washed and rubbed very well. Be alert for peppers from Israel, which require separation of terumah and ma'aser.

amother

Ebony ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 12:11 pm

amother Lightcoral wrote:

Thank you OP for bringing this up - my pet peeve IRL, I talk about it all the time!

I see this in magazines and cookbooks as well, and it drives me crazy!

Are you me??

amother

Catmint ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 12:20 pm

amother Chestnut wrote:

I never heard of a problem with garlic, peppers, or asparagus

There are definitely different opinions of establishing a chazaka etc.

From star k

GARLIC
Remove peel before roasting the garlic as there may be insects under the peel.

Peppers
Remove stem and surrounding area

A ton of recipes in magazines still call for roasting in the skin.

amother

↑ DarkPurple ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 12:22 pm

amother Catmint wrote:

From star k

GARLIC
Remove peel before roasting the garlic as there may be insects under the peel.

A ton of recipes in magazines still call for roasting in the skin.

BTW I have seen these insects with my naked eye.