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amother
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 Fri, Jan 10 2025, 3:37 pm
Just filed our taxes for 2024 and ran a report of groceries, including meat, fish, paper goods, detergents.
30 k for family of 4 kids 2 adults. Is this normal?? Could've had a down-payment with this money
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amother
Ivory
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 3:38 pm
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Not normal. Same amount of kids and adults here and our bill is about $15,000.
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amother
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 3:44 pm
That sounds a bit high, op. That would average out to $575 per week.
We also have 4 kids and 2 adults, some are teenagers. We make all Yomim Tovim and all my kids' lunches come from home. But our yearly bill was probably around 20k or a little less. I don't have exact numbers right now.
Edited to add: one of my kids eats like a bird, so probably my kids only count for 3.5 eaters. I also shop a lot at Aldi's and stock up on meat sales at the frum grocery.
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amother
Pumpkin
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 3:46 pm
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Sounds about right to me. It's crazy, but what can we do?
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amother
Nasturtium
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 3:49 pm
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I pay less for 8 kids 2 adults..
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amother
DarkCyan
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 3:50 pm
| amother OP wrote: | Just filed our taxes for 2024 and ran a report of groceries, including meat, fish, paper goods, detergents.
30 k for family of 4 kids 2 adults. Is this normal?? Could've had a down-payment with this money |
4 teens (eaters) and 2 adults and ours is probably somewhere there. Makes sense.
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amother
Lotus
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 3:52 pm
We are in monsey NY, and we run around 15-20k per year. 2 adults 3 kids BH
(We buy lots of things in costco and walmart, sometimes aldi if we are in the area. )
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amother
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 3:53 pm
Really? Are you on any govt assistance? Have mostly young kids? Not make Pesach?
I agree op's bill is a little high, but not THAT high.
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joker
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 3:59 pm
Absolutely op
I have four kids two adults and we spend 3k a month on average. This includes all yt and paper goods etc.
I highly suspect people saying no are not calculating everything in. Tissues, toilet paper , paper towels etc and / or get government assistance/ live in town where I actually think food is cheaper.
Unless you really limit- no chicken/meat during the week, no meat on shabbos etc I don't see it
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amother
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 4:25 pm
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Sounds about right! Inflation has been really hard on all of us!
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amother
Wisteria
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 4:44 pm
 I ran the weekly amounts and I thought it was actually low since OP was including all household items and I suspect this also would include items like shampoo or toothpaste and miscellaneous items picked up at the drugstore or grocery store.
Detergent isn't cheap and most people have multiple loads every week. Cleaning supplies - it all adds up.
If you figure actual food us probably only $525 per week (deducting paper, toiletries, cleaners and equivalent) then the cost per person is $12.50 per day
Of course one can economize on food by serving beans and pasta but food like chicken, fish, produce is a priority for me so I spend at least this amount per day per person if not more.
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amother
Violet
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Fri, Jan 10 2025, 6:55 pm
This really depends. Do you eat a lot of meat? Only CY and PY? Very strict hechsherim? Make Pesach (and how- only heimish on everything/limited or anything with an OUP?)
Also where you live matters.
You can cut down by limiting processed foods, ready to eat items, pre-made or partially pre-made (frozen foods), buying store brand, buying in season/sale rather than based off menus.
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amother
Cornsilk
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Yesterday at 4:18 pm
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We spend between $1200 to $1500 a month. Family of 2 adults, 9 children (only 8 who are eating). Live in Yerushalayim.
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amother
Nemesia
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Yesterday at 4:31 pm
2500$/monthly
BH 9 children living at home, married children and grandchildren easily put us at 20ppl most shabbosim. I think when we lived in America we spent more.
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Rappel
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Yesterday at 5:43 pm
Israelis, our numbers don't matter on this thread. Let OP get real advice
OP, I feel your pain
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amother
Burgundy
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Yesterday at 6:05 pm
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We spend close to that for a family of 7
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amother
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Yesterday at 6:11 pm
| amother OP wrote: | Just filed our taxes for 2024 and ran a report of groceries, including meat, fish, paper goods, detergents.
30 k for family of 4 kids 2 adults. Is this normal?? Could've had a down-payment with this money |
Unfortunately yes…
You didn’t include where you live and what age kids you have. But if they’re older it might even be normal to spend more…
It’s about 450 a week plus extra for yt, it’s actually on the lower side - especially if you’re including detergent…
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amother
Aquamarine
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Yesterday at 6:16 pm
We spent about 15 k that includes all yomim tovim and disposable goods for eating itself but not tissues detergent toiletries type but I do make a lot of home made food and try to buy items on sale
Family of 5 and host occasionally for shabbos/yt. NY for reference
We spent for sure 200 more per month this past year because of inflation
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amother
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Yesterday at 6:18 pm
We’re a family that rarely buys any ready-made food. For health reasons, we make almost everything from scratch. But that means the food we buy is really clean. I find some processed food to be cheaper than the real deal.
We shop almost exclusively in heimish stores in our area (in town)
We eat animal protein almost every night for dinner and we rarely go away for shabbos or yom tov.
30k per year is actually on the lower end if u include yom tov and occasionally hosting.
Have u seen the price of chicken? Salmon? I’m not even gonna mention beef which we save for nicer occasions.
Have u seen the price of an apple? A pack of 3 heads of romaine lettuce costs abt $5!
Have you seen the price of greek yogurt?
How about a bag of wheat or spelt flour?
What about kedem grape juice for shabbos? Last I checked it was $5-6.
All of these prices may have risen due to inflation so I may be underestimating.
And of course, all the non-food items like cleaning products, papergoods and more make a dent in stuff as well.
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amother
Azalea
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Yesterday at 6:33 pm
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My friend spends 36k yearly, 3k a month. 5 kids (all young) but hosts all the time and has her family for Sukkos
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