Will he ever understand?!

amother

OP ↓

Yesterday at 6:02 pm

Hf asd six year old. His brother toppled over a chair onto the floor and on the way hurt his head. His brother is laying upside down on the floor still , hadn't had a chance to start crying and he punches him on his face yelling crazy boy why aren't you careful you did it intentionally to hurt me... Poor younger brother all hurt from his falling but I'm assuming his tears were mainly due to the physical and verbal harassment of his brother... Here I am hours later crying and hurting for his little abused brother and for my pain. This blockage of not understanding the so obvious that he didn't choose to fall down intentionally.... I've explained this so many times to him, pointed out when it happened that he was the one to unintentionally hurt others that look you didn't mean to hurt twas a mistake same is when.... And I can tell he really gets it. Till next scenario and he is back to square one. He's had therapy on and off and by now im doubtful if his twisted way of thinking can really be re directed....

amother

Cognac ↓

Yesterday at 6:10 pm

He may understand it cognitively but ASD kids are stuck in fight flight and will fly off the handle at the slightest trigger which is why he can't react normally in the moment. His amygdala is hijacking his entire brain including the part that's in charge of logic and reasoning and so there's no getting through to him then.

amother

↑ OP

Yesterday at 6:33 pm

amother Cognac wrote:

how do I unstuck him?

amother

↑ Cognac ↓

Yesterday at 6:34 pm

amother Clematis wrote:

Having such a hard time with my 6 year old hf asd son too.
Why are they in flight or fight mode? I’m so drained

Why is the million dollar question lol but almost all ASD symptoms and behaviors can be explained by the fact that their nervous system is stuck in this mode.
Then the question is what can be done about it...

amother

Nasturtium

Yesterday at 9:47 pm

What’s LDN?

Also struggling with this with our 4 year old child with HFA. Always being physically handsy with us at home, hurts us when we keep explaining that this really hurts etc. doesn’t seem to understand. DC will be starting ABA hopefully soon, is this something we can expect them to work on?

amother

Caramel

Yesterday at 10:25 pm

amother Cognac wrote:

Huh?
Can you send me some medical articles on this? How can the amygdala hijack the brain?

amother

Valerian

Today at 2:55 am

amother Nasturtium wrote:

Yes. Make sure your BCBA knows and prioritizes it.

When my kids (several with HFA) were little, therapists helped us create and enforce the 2 rules we posted in the house -- No hurting people, No hurting things. (This obviously meant intentional hurt).

We explained and practiced how no matter what the provocation, there would be a consequence (timeout, set up and practiced so it was well understood and effective) if you broke those rules. Obviously, if someone else intentionally hurt you or your things, they'd get a consequence as well. A period of time with zero damage earned a reward. A timeout taken properly earned a small reward as well, regardless of the reason for having to take it.

OP, it's vital to stay calm, as your negative emotions will feed the negative emotions in DS. Get the younger one to safety, let the older one calm, then discuss strategies ("If you are upset with younger siblings, you must tell a grownup, no matter what.")

With time and treatment, you and he can learn other ways to cope with the anxiety that triggered his attack.

It's important for both of you to become more aware of danger signs, and ways to calm before ODS goes over the edge. The saying is that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, but I think when dealing with ASD, a milligram of prevention is worth a kilo of cure.