Father and son having matching names

amother

↑ Brown ↓

Yesterday at 10:15 pm

I just feel like there are so many names out there why do these complicated things? But tbh I never knew aryeh and leib were related.

amother

Yolk

Yesterday at 11:55 pm

amother Brown wrote:

I just feel like there are so many names out there why do these complicated things? But tbh I never knew aryeh and leib were related.

Aryeh = lion (hebrew)
Leibush = little lion (yiddish)
Yehuda = hodaah - praise/thanks (hebrew)
Leib = praise/thanks (yiddish) pronounced loib to thank
Lev = heart (hebrew)

does that help?
I heard this from a big talmid chacham

amother

Babyblue

Today at 12:00 am

amother Camellia wrote:

I am Aliza and my daughter is Fraida

We checked with a Rav

No one’s ever commented except for my mother, when we named her

What's the connection between Aliza and Freida, ive only heard Rina being used instead

amother

↑ Steelblue ↓

Today at 12:47 am

amother Yolk wrote:

Leib isn't related to the word loib. It's the literal translation of Arye/Lion.

amother

Pearl

Today at 1:24 am

My father is Leib and my brother is Yehuda. I never heard of the names being the same until I married DH and he has a family member named Yehuda who has been called Leiby his entire life.

↑ Ruchel

Today at 5:05 am

amother Rainbow wrote:

There's no way on this green earth that I'd name a sister and brother Chaya and Chaim. Or Eliezer and Elisheva for that matter, because chances are they'd wind up being called Eli and Ellie. Not for any woo-woo reason, I totally don't believe in that, but because it can get messy with school tests and blood tests and confusing for ordinary mortals whose hearing may not be perfect.

Generally people do it for family reasons

amother

Fuchsia ↓

Today at 10:03 am

amother Brown wrote:

I know a shoshana that has a daughter raizy, and because they’re sefardi, her granddaughter is once again shoshana! The only one that seemed weird to me was someone whose name was roiz and her daughter was raizel.

Roizy and Raizy is two different names!
Verified by more than one rav!
It has completely different meanings.
I have relatives with both names in the family.
By far not sefardi!

zaq ↓

Today at 10:03 am

amother Babyblue wrote:

What's the connection between Aliza and Freida, ive only heard Rina being used instead

Freide means joy and Aliza means cheerful, joyful, lighthearted. Other related names include Gila, Ditza, Chedva, Simcha, and other forms like Gilit. Ditza isn't popular, (maybe because it sounds like "ditzy"?) but I did encounter a Ditza once.

amother

↑ Steelblue ↓

Today at 10:12 am

amother Fuchsia wrote:

Roizy and Raizy is two different names!
Verified by more than one rav!
It has completely different meanings.
I have relatives with both names in the family.
By far not sefardi!

What are the completely different meanings?

↑ zaq ↓

Today at 10:13 am

amother Yolk wrote:

The reason why there are so many Yehuda Aryehs around is that in Chumash, Yehuda is blessed as "Gur Aryeh Yehuda"--Yehuda is a lion cub--and the lion is the symbol of the tribe. Why davka Yehuda Aryeh rather than Aryeh Yehuda? Probably because Yehuda is the actual name of the man and the tribe, while Aryeh is a description. Just my theory, no proof.

And Aryeh Leib is a Hebrew-name-and-translation in the traditional Yiddish pattern, like Dov Ber, Zev Vulf, Shoshana Reizel, Yitzchak Eizik and so on.

amother

↑ Fuchsia ↓

Today at 10:32 am

amother Steelblue wrote:

What are the completely different meanings?

According to my rav, Roizy is a rose (flower)
And forgot about Raizy, but he claims it’s not a flower.
Im not arguing about what others hold, just saying what we were told, and not once, it’s a family history name…

amother

↑ Steelblue ↓

Today at 10:35 am

amother Fuchsia wrote:

This is extremely surprising. Raizel is commonly known to mean rose. What else could it mean? Ooc, what circles are you from?

↑ zaq ↓

Today at 10:42 am

Yehuda Aryeh is just like Binyamin Zev, the wolf being the symbol of the tribe of Benjamin, and Naftali Zvi, the gazelle being the symbol of that tribe. (In Yaakov s blessing the word is "Naftali Ayalah shluchah," but Ayalah being feminine, as a given name it's changed to Zvi, which is also of the deer family. )

Why don't we name people Dan Nachash or Yissachar Chamor, which are also descriptors in Yaakov's blessing? No idea. As my dad used to say, even a name has to have mazal. These creatures are perhaps considered less romantic than lions, gazelles, or even wolves. Yaakov obviously considered them admirable in one way or another, despite the fact that snakes are the traditional enemies of humankind, dating right back to the expulsion from the Garden of Eden.

↑ zaq

Today at 11:41 am

RAYZel, rhymes with playbill, is simply the Lithuanian pronunciation of the name that Chassidim pronounce REYEZel, rhymes with idle. In standard (YIVO) Yiddish (which no one actually spoke in Europe but some American Yiddishists do) it's ROYZel. רויז means a rose, hence, Shoshana Reizel. The "El" suffix is simply a diminutive and often becomes "ie" or "y."

REYEZ, pronounced rise רייז with a patach, is rice.
RYzeh, רייזע, means a journey.

REYESEN, רייסן with a patach, means to tear or pull and also Russia. But it's with a samech and pronounced like an S, not a Z. Even if someone were nicknamed רייסי, maybe because she was a Russian among Hungarians, she wouldn't have been called Reizy but Reissy.

Please explain how Raizy and Reizy are two different words with different meanings. From different languages, perhaps? Like Dan short for Daniel and Don short for Donald?

amother

↑ Fuchsia ↓

Today at 1:11 pm

amother Steelblue wrote:

This is extremely surprising. Raizel is commonly known to mean rose. What else could it mean? Ooc, what circles are you from?

I honestly don’t remember.
But it’s a common family name both, and we were told it’s different…
I’m chasidish… this is going back generations actually

amother

↑ Brown

Today at 1:45 pm

amother Fuchsia wrote:

Roizy and Raizy is two different names!
Verified by more than one rav!
It has completely different meanings.
I have relatives with both names in the family.
By far not sefardi!

Ok but it’s just weird to name two close family members such similar names. I even find Ariella and Ayala weird to have in the same family and they don’t mean the same thing at all.

amother

↑ Steelblue

Today at 2:06 pm

amother Fuchsia wrote:

I honestly don’t remember.
But it’s a common family name both, and we were told it’s different…
I’m chasidish… this is going back generations actually

Maybe your Rav paskened they are different names and can both be used in the same family. They do mean the same thing though.

amother

↑ Fuchsia

Today at 2:53 pm

amother Steelblue wrote:

Maybe your Rav paskened they are different names and can both be used in the same family. They do mean the same thing though.

He clearly stated it has 2 different meanings..
Just saying for conversation purposes, it could be diff people hold diff things and I’m ok with it. Just came into the conversation exactly the 2 names that we happen to have and asked a rav, so I decided to share it!
It is possible ppl hold differently! Smile

amother

Starflower ↓

Today at 3:22 pm

amother Rainbow wrote:

We have a chaya and a Chaim, but only one goes by that name. One is named after their grandparent, and one is named after a great grandparent. I didn’t even realize it until I read this thread. It’s not something I think about, because we don’t use the name.

amother

↑ Starflower

Today at 3:26 pm

zaq wrote:

A girl I went to school with has a younger sister Ditza. The same family also has a Tzipporah and a Faiga- are those the same, or is it Faige’s that’s the same?