Gifted kids and academics

amother

↑ Maroon ↓

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 9:51 pm

amother OP wrote:

Adding up to ten I meant as in using numbers up to ten, 5+8, 8+9, 10+10

That's called adding up to 20, or addition within 20. Yes, that's unusual in that its not taught in kindergarten. Its taught in first grade. But it's not highly unusual.

amother

↑ Pear

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 9:52 pm

giftedmom wrote:

Your pediatrician is wrong. I’m not saying nothing gives. But you absolutely can have both high IQ and EQ.

I agree it can, but, as a general thought, my dh and I both find those best at work in very technical fields are high IQ and lower EQ. My kids are like us, lower EQ. Geeking out at work by conquering very technical problems is an awesome day. I’m not saying I’m smart in any way at all, I’m saying I’m very good at removing myself and focusing on the science and was thought to be very smart as a kid yet I failed everything because classroom settings did not come easily for me especially with a very unstable home life. People who meet me now and hear what I do say of course. I married a similar guy b”h and we’re trying to give the kids what would have helped us. My oldest is thankfully doing very well academically, less so socially and will very likely be a young engineer. My next ones are following. Thankfully they all have confidence and skills and do well in school because we know where the weaknesses are and we’re getting better at it with each kid.

amother

↑ Trillium

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 9:53 pm

amother Maroon wrote:

Yes, that is unusual.
Within ten is not. That's just called smart, mathematically inclined, good number sense.

Are you saying your child can figure out 47+38? Yes, that is gifted.

Yes he can. He counts the 10s first and then adds the rest.

amother

↑ Maroon ↓

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 9:54 pm

I had a daughter who was doing addition a through fifteen or twenty in kindergarten. In small group centers, the teacher would change the numbers on the worksheet to make it more advanced for my daughter. My daughter (and I!) really appreciated it.

That daughter is a few years older now, and is bored in math class. It's okay. She can be bored. As long as she participates and cooperates x which she does.

amother

↑ Maroon ↓

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 9:56 pm

amother Trillium wrote:

Yes he can. He counts the 10s first and then adds the rest.

Wow! That's really talented- common core second grade strategy.

I am not a diagnostician so I can't really tell you if he meets the qualifications of "gifted" but as a parent and as someone in the educational field, I can tell you that his math abilities are incredibly high and not grade level in the least.

amother

↑ Leaf ↓

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 10:09 pm

amother OP wrote:

Adding up to ten I meant as in using numbers up to ten, 5+8, 8+9, 10+10

It's not that unusual.
In the US this isn't taught in kindergarten but in other countries it is officially taught at this age.
In the UK for example, they are already teaching reading and writing at this age.
In your other post you said she had started learning Hebrew letters and numbers so that's ok.

I don't think you need to be worried about the future. Take each stage as it comes. Right now, give her puzzles, word problems.

imaima ↓

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 10:23 pm

amother Maroon wrote:

That's called adding up to 20, or addition within 20. Yes, that's unusual in that its not taught in kindergarten. Its taught in first grade. But it's not highly unusual.

And I echo the other poster... You are not a native English speaker, correct?

Why does it matter?

amother

Ginger

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 10:25 pm

amother Mocha wrote:

I have such a child and received very interesting advice from a colleague: she told me to enroll her young in lessons or activities where her aptitude is just average so that she is used to not being the best always. I have seen gifted adults struggle when the real world hits and they realise that life isn’t a school classroom. I don’t want that for my daughter. If your daughter is 4.5, now would probably be a great time to start since she likely still has the ability to enjoy things that she isn’t the best at. Wishing you lots of nachas!

Will second this. As they get older, you can also try to find advanced classes where they won’t stand out and they get to utilize their intellect.

amother

↑ Maroon

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 10:29 pm

imaima wrote:

Why does it matter?

You're right. The spelling is irritating me. But I will edit that post. Could you edit yours as well to get rid ofthat sentence?

amother

↑ Leaf ↓

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 10:35 pm

imaima wrote:

Why does it matter?

I asked simply because if OP speaks a different language from her daughter, she could teach her that language and stimulate her that way.

amother

Pumpkin

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 10:35 pm

What about a 1.5 year old who recognizes ABC's and thier sounds. (also some alef beis)
Also has a great memory and will sit down and read a book to herself from memory, turning the correct pages.
Can recognize and name all shapes and colors.
Uses numbers 1,2,3 appropriately.
Can also speak in full sentences.
Is that considered gifted?

amother

Obsidian

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 10:42 pm

The issue with my son (I wrote the school resistance post) is that he is interested in his interests, which he pursues at home, so school - even though it’s not boring for him, it also doesn’t hold his interest.
(I don’t know if he’s gifted or not, but bright bli ayin hara).
So he’d rather be doing his own stuff than be at school.

amother

Orange

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 10:43 pm

My son was explaining multiplication to me at age 5. He is now in 6th grade. Highly intelligent. Advanced in math and everything else. Understands the gemara the first time. He is somewhat bored but doing fine in school. He is friends with the other brainy kids. Key is to find non academic things for him to do in his spare time. The academics and learning he learns and absorbs by osmosis. Other things he needs to learn. So we try to focus on that. And make sure that there are things to stimulate him in the house. Books. Games. Etc.

Your daughter sounds smart in math but not gifted in an extreme way. Enjoy her!

amother

↑ Leaf

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 10:54 pm

amother Pumpkin wrote:

Yes.
If she is doing that without being taught, it would be considered profoundly gifted and in that case I would strongly recommend thinking about the future now.
Parenting and educating a profoundly gifted kid is a whole different category than regular gifted.

If she is being taught ie you are sitting with her and pointing things out, it would still be considered gifted just possibly not profoundly so.

There are professionals who specialize in this area.

TwinsMommy

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 11:06 pm

Finding and staying in the right school is key. Both my kids are gifted but only one was able to stay in the school that could challenge them. I should have homeschooled the other all the way through but hindsight is 20 20. If your child is in a school willing to subject accelerate, grade accelerate, or do what's needed based on your kid (my kid took 4th grade math in 1st grade.... I loved that school), do all you can to stay with that school.

amother

Mint

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 11:13 pm

amother Pumpkin wrote:

My kid did all this at this age. She didn’t test as majorly gifted when I evaluated her for pt issues and they do a full eval. She just tested as slightly above. We have been to many evaluations since and she tests as above average in many areas but not necessarily gifted. So it can go either way.

↑ imaima

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 11:28 pm

amother Maroon wrote:

You're right. The spelling is irritating me. But I will edit that post. Could you edit yours as well to get rid ofthat sentence?

I didn’t mean it as an attack. Just interested in the reasoning.

amother

Whitewash

Sun, Dec 15 2024, 11:59 pm

My DD is way ahead of her classmates in every subject. We're in the process of having her officially tested. In the meantime she's in dance and gymnastics where she is nowhere near the best in the group. (This is what she chose as after school activities)
I buy a lot of workbooks for her to do for fun, tons and tons of books.
Search for brain activity games or things like that on Amazon.
This is one thing she loves
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BZ.....ss_tl

amother

Burlywood

Mon, Dec 16 2024, 12:27 am

TwinsMommy wrote:

Can you say the name of the school that was that flexible for your kid?
I have an incredibly bored kid... we suffered through years of "he can't read, oh wait he can!" (They didnt believe my kid or me) And "oh wow, you kid can add without counters!" When he never used them to begin with. Etc throughout the years. My kid couldn't sit still because was so bored.

ora_43 ↓

Mon, Dec 16 2024, 1:56 am

I don't know how unusual your dd is, there are a lot of factors.

In general, early academic development can go in many directions. The most common is that the kid ends up doing well in school without being unusually gifted as an adult.

Other options: child is highly gifted, child eventually settles into the average range, child remains near-gifted or gifted but has difficulties (eg ADHD, dyslexia, ASD) that make it hard to fully utilize their giftedness.

At this age I wouldn't worry about the future too much.