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Today at 12:35 am
amother Jasmine wrote: | You can get government funding through honest ways as well.
I honestly don't care how they get their funding. The issue is lying about a kid having issues just to get funding because that affects the kid.
And before you say it doesn't let me tell you my school made a ton of money off of me by giving me false diagnoses and till today I can't shake them off my name.
Not to mention the lack of self confidence to stick up for myself in certain situations. |
How does the diagnosis affect you?
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Today at 12:36 am
#BestBubby wrote: | No way public school, a house of immorality!
I would homeschool. |
How does this work practically? Is it the mother or the father who is homeschooling? If it's the mother, does she teach her sons gemara?
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Today at 12:44 am
Yeah, boys would need yeshivah.
But it could work for girls.
Even for boys, better to be home than go to public school.
They won't learn Torah in PS, they will learn Toeivah.
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Today at 12:50 am
Anyway it seems, that it is mostly girls schools, that threaten this route. I have heard that some donors rather give to Boys Schools, because the Torah they learn is more of a zechus. Sorry to say but that is the truth. And hence why Kollels are given priority by some donors.
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Today at 12:51 am
kosherkween wrote: | You're all crying poverty but only one person mentored taking they kids out and homeschooling. So you can bash the school all u want but bottom line ure utilizing goods that ure not paying for, which needs to come from someone else's bank account |
I homeschooled for a year and it was a disaster. A head of a mosad (a very large respected mosad, with a lot of white hair and a heart condition to show for it) when he heard I was homeschooling because we could not afford tuition, despite his tzaros with paying for his own school, called up the school my children go to and told them to accept us with lower or no tuition. (We pay what we can but it is very far from actual tuition price.)
Bottom line is that the schools don't exist as a money-making or even a break-even corporation. Their primary reason for existence is to give Jewish children a proper education so they grow up as literate, happy, healthy, contributing Jews and continue our mesora for future generations.
If we are throwing children out of school because their parents aren't paying, whether their parents are tightwads who will be paying for it in Shomayim, or they are struggling to put food on the table, or have terrible mazal and can't hold a job, we are playing with innocent Yiddishe neshamos.
You know the bitachon you teach in school? It applies to you too. No parent can take money out of your pocket that is yours. Nobody can give you agmas nefesh that was not predestined for you.
Maybe have your mosad model the responsible behavior it is asking from parents. Cut costs, open your books and tell the truth about where you're prioritizing spending. Make sure that the priorities are in the right place, not just to make your mosad look good, that's the equivalent of a parent driving a Lexus for the same reason. Make sure that the administration of the school demonstrates simple living and pays full tuition. (If they get a discount, whose pocket will it be coming out of?)
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Today at 12:52 am
#BestBubby wrote: | Yeah, boys would need yeshivah.
But it could work for girls.
Even for boys, better to be home than go to public school.
They won't learn Torah in PS, they will learn Toeivah. |
So we're going back to the shtetl model. Boys in yeshiva, girls homeschooled at home. Hmmm... how innovative.
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Today at 1:04 am
amother Zinnia wrote: | Anyway it seems, that it is mostly girls schools, that threaten this route. I have heard that some donors rather give to Boys Schools, because the Torah they learn is more of a zechus. Sorry to say but that is the truth. And hence why Kollels are given priority by some donors. |
And the irony in this is, girls schools are a money maker. Boys yeshivas are not.
What are the expenses in a girls school? Two teachers making 20k a year each? You have 30 girls in a class, even if the pay reduced tuition, even with other expenses, what is their profit? Something tells me that it's not the teachers salaries that they are having trouble paying... it's something else.
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Today at 1:26 am
#BestBubby wrote: | No way public school, a house of immorality!
I would homeschool. |
Good for you. Families who need both incomes or single parents can't.
We can't be screaming at every corner how important Jewish education is while scaring the parents with throwing their kids out if tuition isn't up to date.
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Today at 1:36 am
kosherkween wrote: | Everyone keeps saying communal responsibility. Well, then let it be communal! Every time the boiler in school breaks down, every parent gets a bill, communal no?
Every time the payroll is short 20k, we send bill to your local tomcha shabbas or rsk!
Ppl say communal but it's just empty words with no meaning.
There's no communal fund, it's all individual ppl (for the most part) in each school who have the detestable job of collecting, being hated just for doing their job, being called every curse word in the book, and still have the nighmare of looming deadline of payroll, from which they cannot escape, or their students will truly be in the streets |
There is a way of calling up to ask for tuition. The ones who talk nicely and understanding are not hated.
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Today at 2:37 am
amother Skyblue wrote: | Off topic but I've always been curious. How? I'm a sahm, pay full tuition so it's not on anyone else's cheshbon but I often wonder how do other women do it. So many appointments, days off from school, kid home sick... And you said you have high need kids... |
I get paid per hour so if I take off for appointments I just lose that pay. Or make up hours at night. Not easy but my boss is very nice. Kid Sick days are my sick days so I go to work unless I am bedridden. Not the best but Sudafed and tylenol are amazing.
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Today at 2:44 am
amother Cherry wrote: | None of that explains how you can both work full time with special needs kids. My dd has multiple appointments a month, often an hour's drive each way. They are scheduled months in advance because specialists are booking that far out anyway. They still get canceled and rescheduled at the specialists whims. I need to schedule my life around her appointments and not the other way around. And be prepared to rearrange everything at an hours notice. Maybe some people have SN kids who are low maintenance and it's doable but for my child it's really really not. |
Oh we have medical appointments that are scheduled 1 month to 3-4 months out.
We figure it out. Husband takes off, I take off, call the one relative locally who can help, pay someone to babysit... put in overtime other days, work from home...
Luckily it is 1 specialist with crazy appointments for each kid. It's actually figuring out how to get their meds which takes hours each month. Refills, pharmacy issues, insurance issues... that's what my lunch break is for. And when I am commuting.
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