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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:02 am
amother Dandelion wrote: | My family was once at the safari and we saw 2 of the animals going at it, full on. No way to miss it. My parents were not toooooo pleased shall we say. I don’t think they intended the trip to be thaaaat educational. My sister and I were teens, and we couldn’t stop laughing. We thought it was beyond hilarious. My mother kept whispering to my father to just ‘step on the gas, get out of here!’, but there were cars in front of us going SLOOOW. |
Hilarious!
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:07 am
vintagebknyc wrote: | The average Joe (and his partner Jane) have absolutely no idea that Orthodox people don’t kiss or even hold hands in public. I was secular Jewish for decades before I found out, when I became a BT. A display? I’d say they were feeling amorous and took the opportunity for a big kiss. You can’t expect non religious people to know what other religions and cultures find acceptable. |
In conservative parts of the US people are stricter about it.
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:07 am
amother Dandelion wrote: | My family was once at the safari and we saw 2 of the animals going at it, full on. No way to miss it. My parents were not toooooo pleased shall we say. I don’t think they intended the trip to be thaaaat educational. My sister and I were teens, and we couldn’t stop laughing. We thought it was beyond hilarious. My mother kept whispering to my father to just ‘step on the gas, get out of here!’, but there were cars in front of us going SLOOOW. |
You know it's Assur to look at that, right?
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amother
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:10 am
We need to see in order to look away.....
And they were young teens, they probably didn't even know that they're not allowed to look.
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amother
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:15 am
Yah, I don’t think we were well-versed in such rules at that age. We were typical BY high schoolers. And I don’t think our parents telling us ‘it’s Assur to look’ would’ve helped matters. They just kept loudly pointing out all the random fascinating things they suddenly saw on the other side 🤣.
But if I ever happen to be at a zoo or Safari again, and I see this again, I’ll know not to look 🙃.
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:22 am
amother Dandelion wrote: | Yah, I don’t think we were well-versed in such rules at that age. We were typical BY high schoolers. And I don’t think our parents telling us ‘it’s Assur to look’ would’ve helped matters. They just kept loudly pointing out all the random fascinating things they suddenly saw on the other side 🤣.
But if I ever happen to be at a zoo or Safari again, and I see this again, I’ll know not to look 🙃. |
I get it
It's also kinda sad though that it wasn't mentioned to you in the situation that you found yourselves in since you were with your parents
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:26 am
amother Purple wrote: | I get it
It's also kinda sad though that it wasn't mentioned to you in the situation that you found yourselves in since you were with your parents |
We were with our parents. AND all our younger siblings. My parents were focusing on getting the littles to look somewhere else, not necessarily at the teens sniggering. And also not exactly the best time for a conversation.
I’m sure they told us not to look.
But honestly? I think they handled it great. They didn’t make a major deal of it. Got the younger kids engrossed in the suddenly fascinating animals on the other side, etc.
In the moment, telling teens ‘Halacha says it’s assur to look’ doesn’t exactly go over well.
And we got lots of questions answered 🙈
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:36 am
amother Nectarine wrote: | I get jealous . I hate not being able to be affectionate in public. I'm a hopeless romantic ... I love these things. Let them enjoy ! |
Lol me too. I would love PDA.
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:37 am
While I think OP used very strong language I do get uncomfortable if a couple does full on PDA in front of me. Kissing and hugging are okay.
Acting as if you need to get a room is not okay.
As beautiful as expressing love is its TMI for others to see a couple acting hot and heavy.
And most of these young teenagers are just expressing lust. I wouldn't call it love.
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:38 am
vintagebknyc wrote: | The average Joe (and his partner Jane) have absolutely no idea that Orthodox people don’t kiss or even hold hands in public. I was secular Jewish for decades before I found out, when I became a BT. A display? I’d say they were feeling amorous and took the opportunity for a big kiss. You can’t expect non religious people to know what other religions and cultures find acceptable. |
This reminded me
The first time I went out with my Chasan, (ultra chassidish btw) a random black woman comes over to us and she's like " can I ask you guys a question?" and then she says " do you guys have a time where you are allowed to be s-xually active"
If I wouldve been alone, I might have answered her but oh my was it hilarious.
I regretted not saying something after like oh that was funny, but my chasan looked nonchalant so I thought maybe he didn't hear or didn't know the words LOL
now we howl when we think about it.
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 11:53 am
Bnei Berak 10 wrote: | In conservative parts of the US people are stricter about it. |
I have lived in other parts of the country than NYC, including parts of the South. PDA is PDA
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 11:53 am
amother Cream wrote: | Kids absolutely notice
I was stopped at a red light and a teen couple was making out my 2.5 year old asked me what is that mommy and daddy doing we kiss lightly in front of our kids so she figured they must be married if they were kissing it couldn’t turn green fast enough.
And yea I would say it at gross it’s a house/bedroom activity not the streets same like saying urinating in public is gross |
Why not say it’s private and turn away why say davka gross?
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 11:56 am
lamplighter wrote: | I teach my kids, if someone in public doing things they should be doing in private, we give them privacy by looking away.
Never use the words gross or anything like that.
(This applies to people not dressed tznius, or acting tznius, or using the bathroom on the street, or fighting/yelling in the streets). |
Love it. Also a good line if someone needs Hatzolah and is uncomfortably in public attention at vulnerable time.
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 12:51 pm
amother Dandelion wrote: | My family was once at the safari and we saw 2 of the animals going at it, full on. No way to miss it. My parents were not toooooo pleased shall we say. I don’t think they intended the trip to be thaaaat educational. My sister and I were teens, and we couldn’t stop laughing. We thought it was beyond hilarious. My mother kept whispering to my father to just ‘step on the gas, get out of here!’, but there were cars in front of us going SLOOOW. |
It’s only in very recent generations that we don’t grow up around animals. Most people either owned or were around farm animals and all children saw animals doing it. That’s not the same thing
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 1:31 pm
I get it that it was inappropriate, but for your title to be "so grossed out"--I think sends the wrong message. Kissing is only "gross" to a 5 year-old who thinks "boys have cooties".
Maybe "OMG TMI" or "OMG Get a room!" but I think think the title could've been a bit more mature.
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 1:33 pm
miami85 wrote: | I get it that it was inappropriate, but for your title to be "so grossed out"--I think sends the wrong message. Kissing is only "gross" to a 5 year-old who thinks "boys have cooties".
Maybe "OMG TMI" or "OMG Get a room!" but I think think the title could've been a bit more mature. |
my 5 year old doesnt know about such things...
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amother
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 1:34 pm
miami85 wrote: | I get it that it was inappropriate, but for your title to be "so grossed out"--I think sends the wrong message. Kissing is only "gross" to a 5 year-old who thinks "boys have cooties".
Maybe "OMG TMI" or "OMG Get a room!" but I think think the title could've been a bit more mature. |
I never knew till kallah classes that such things exist even in a bedroom so yes for me its gross
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amother
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 1:37 pm
amother OP wrote: | I never knew till kallah classes that such things exist even in a bedroom so yes for me its gross |
You never saw a non Jewish couple kissing before you got married? You seriously never knew of such a concept?
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 1:42 pm
amother Dahlia wrote: | You never saw a non Jewish couple kissing before you got married? You seriously never knew of such a concept? |
I knew theres stuff thats considered to be innapropriate between couples and I shouldnt know about but I was never curious enough to look into it... didnt know abt sx either
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 1:43 pm
I’m just curious as to where you live that you were able to be so sheltered while growing up yet are currently so exposed like this on the streets. I’m not doubting you, it just feels inconsistent for a neighborhood.
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