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amother
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 Yesterday at 3:51 pm
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I have a student who is so incredibly far behind academically, also has a host of diagnoses and my other students cannot stand them. They come to school a total mess. I have complained endlessly to the principal and the parents. Nothing is done. Parents were nasty to me when I offered sincere solutions. Child does whatever they want at school and is basically a zombie half the day from medication. I don't understand how this is legal? If this was a public school the child would be forced to be in a special Ed situation and actually get the help they need. I'm at my wits end and it's only December! I have no time to give special attention. I have other students who actually need to work through the material and have the ability to do it. Principal refuses to give the parents an ultimatum and quite frankly I'm ready to quit.
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amother
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Yesterday at 3:54 pm
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Did I write this? Add that mine regularly gets into fights because he thinks kids are making fun of him when they look up from working to ask for help and have to find me in the room, inevitably next to him. Today I told admin I could either keep him from fighting or teach the rest of my class. Not both.
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amother
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Yesterday at 3:59 pm
| amother Purple wrote: | | Did I write this? Add that mine regularly gets into fights because he thinks kids are making fun of him when they look up from working to ask for help and have to find me in the room, inevitably next to him. Today I told admin I could either keep him from fighting or teach the rest of my class. Not both. |
What does the principal say? Mine just keeps saying she can't kick them out. So make some terms. Something. It's not normal!
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SandyBrown
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Yesterday at 4:18 pm
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Um, what? You’re ready to quit bc of ONE kid? Just ignore it.
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:19 pm
Have you been a teacher? Yes one kid can ruin it
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Stoneblue
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Yesterday at 4:19 pm
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Actually in public schools they can't force the parent to do anything and the kid would remain in a regular classroom if that's what the parent insisted on.
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:21 pm
| amother Stoneblue wrote: | | Actually in public schools they can't force the parent to do anything and the kid would remain in a regular classroom if that's what the parent insisted on. |
Not my experience....
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:22 pm
Huh? You can't just ignore a student. Clearly you don't teach
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amother
Sand
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Yesterday at 4:23 pm
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Demand a shadow for this child
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:23 pm
| amother OP wrote: | | What does the principal say? Mine just keeps saying she can't kick them out. So make some terms. Something. It's not normal! |
“He can’t help it, we’re working with his therapist”
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:24 pm
Except one kid never remains 1 kid. Rarely are the issues in a vacuum. Often it then makes issues with everyone else.
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:25 pm
I did. The child doesn't like anyone and fires them all. They found an incredible person and the child made up lies about them.
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:25 pm
| amother Purple wrote: | | Except one kid never remains 1 kid. Rarely are the issues in a vacuum. Often it then makes issues with everyone else. |
Exactly. The child ruins the classroom atmosphere.
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amother
Steel
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Yesterday at 4:33 pm
I hear your frustration.
What exactly do you expect the parents to do when they are not there to handle the behaviors? It sounds like they are doing the best they can (you mentioned medication) A Jewish child belongs in a Jewish school.
I have been on the other side of the fence as a parent.
I got calls almost every day about school issues and almost lost my job over it.
I was able to handle my son at home, but obviously wasn't in the classroom to address the behaviors.
I brought in numerous therapists and professionals to observe and consult with the school. They all said that my son should be in a typical classroom with accomodations. Unfortunately, the teacher was unskilled at implementing the accomodations and couldn't handle my child. Almost none of the suggested accomodations from the numerous professionals were implemented. A shadow (babysitter) hindered my child's progress, caused several issues, and he was also resentful. Not to mention the professionals we consulted with thought it was inappropriate for him. I spent many thousands of dollars that I didn't have getting outside services while we survived on rice and beans every night. I was almost ready to have him be the only white kid in the local public school system.
They years we had teachers that "clicked" with him we're fine.
I know this may not be helpful to you, but it's helpful to see things from the other side sometimes.
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:37 pm
| amother Steel wrote: | I hear your frustration.
What exactly do you expect the parents to do when they are not there to handle the behaviors? It sounds like they are doing the best they can (you mentioned medication) A Jewish child belongs in a Jewish school.
I have been on the other side of the fence as a parent.
I got calls almost every day about school issues and almost lost my job over it.
I was able to handle my son at home, but obviously wasn't in the classroom to address the behaviors.
I brought in numerous therapists and professionals to observe and consult with the school. They all said that my son should be in a typical classroom with accomodations. Unfortunately, the teacher was unskilled at implementing the accomodations and couldn't handle my child. Almost none of the suggested accomodations from the numerous professionals were implemented. A shadow (babysitter) hindered my child's progress, caused several issues, and he was also resentful. Not to mention the professionals we consulted with thought it was inappropriate for him. I spent many thousands of dollars that I didn't have getting outside services while we survived on rice and beans every night. I was almost ready to have him be the only white kid in the local public school system.
They years we had teachers that "clicked" with him we're fine.
I know this may not be helpful to you, but it's helpful to see things from the other side sometimes. |
What did the professionals suggest that the teacher couldn't implement? Was your son up to par academically? Behavior aside- this child is 3 years behind the rest of the class. I'm wondering what you expect the teacher to do in that scenario. They can't keep up with the basic skills of the class. BTW this child has other Jewish options, they just refuse them.
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:40 pm
| amother OP wrote: | | I have a student who is so incredibly far behind academically, also has a host of diagnoses and my other students cannot stand them. They come to school a total mess. I have complained endlessly to the principal and the parents. Nothing is done. Parents were nasty to me when I offered sincere solutions. Child does whatever they want at school and is basically a zombie half the day from medication. I don't understand how this is legal? If this was a public school the child would be forced to be in a special Ed situation and actually get the help they need. I'm at my wits end and it's only December! I have no time to give special attention. I have other students who actually need to work through the material and have the ability to do it. Principal refuses to give the parents an ultimatum and quite frankly I'm ready to quit. |
What are you complaining to the parents and principal about? Meaning what do you want to happen?
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Garnet
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Yesterday at 4:43 pm
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Is there any reason you're using the plural they/them? It just causes the reader to assume you're woke and takes away from your valid complaint.
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:47 pm
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That child sounds like my daughter. I wish I could pull her out but being on the streets is not an option. I do feel bad that this is unpleasant for the teachers.
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Yesterday at 4:49 pm
| amother Stoneblue wrote: | | Actually in public schools they can't force the parent to do anything and the kid would remain in a regular classroom if that's what the parent insisted on. |
Yup. I came here to say that. If parents don't want, they can't be forced
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amother
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Yesterday at 4:49 pm
| amother Garnet wrote: | | Is there any reason you're using the plural they/them? It just causes the reader to assume you're woke and takes away from your valid complaint. |
I am the furtherest thing from woke! I don't want to share too many details to remain anon etc.
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