DH having a hard time finding a job

amother

Hydrangea

Today at 10:43 am

amother Camellia wrote:

I think her husband is more capable than data entry and number input. And just because some really big companies started doing it doesn’t mean there aren’t loads and loads of smaller companies that are keeping it in house. I know quite a few ppl who recently left kollel and found jobs through the way I’m describing.

Of course he is! But it's hard to get hired at the top - most people need to start at the bottom. Yes, at jobs that may be below his skill level.

amother

↑ Red ↓

Today at 10:43 am

Wolfsbane wrote:

$65k doesn't sound so low for an entry level job with no degree.

This. It's not. But the issue is someone in his 30s with a big family needs more money. But he doesn't have the skills. It doesn't match up. And it's not on the employer to pay more than the employee is worth.

amother

↑ Lily

Today at 1:25 pm

Sometimes you do have to start at the bottom.

I know someone years ago who asked me if I know there is a guy who makes the boss coffee. He is the guy who makes that guy coffee. Meaning he is the bottom the barrel.
Today he has moved up tremdoysly and is going very well.
It’s not easy but it can work.

↑ lamplighter

Today at 2:18 pm

Is there a way to be in kollel and to do courses or training on the side so that when you leave kollel you have credentials?
Experience is harder to come by.

It would be amazing if all those multimillionaire self made businessness would be willing to hire men out of kollel to gain experience and get on their feet. It feels like Lakewood has a huge class divide (men struggling to find jobs vs families with huge mansions worth millions who make insane simchos and wear thousands of dollars of designer clothing and Jewelry). There should be a way to bridge this with employment. Maybe even as maaser. Let the Rabbonim get on this issue just like they get on the anti lace campaign or whatever.

amother

Gladiolus

Today at 2:36 pm

lamplighter wrote:

Let the Rabbonim get on this issue just like they get on the anti lace campaign or whatever.

Call me jaded but this will never happen.

amother

Sunflower

Today at 2:39 pm

Its rough -my husband had this a few years ago (market prob has changed) but he also struggled with finding something. I didnt read thru all the posts so excuse me if Im asking something that was asked already but Is your husband saying no to jobs that pay pennies? like literally a few dollars an hour? because although its rough and assuming you need the money someone with zero experience has to start low. In my experience after looking for awhile my husband found an entry level office job but they were literally paying a few dollars an hour. -He BH was good at what he did and got many raises since. But he had to humble himself. Also to be openminded to something he may not envision himself doing long term but just to "get himself" out there. Things come up once youre already in the working world.

amother

↑ Red

Today at 2:42 pm

lamplighter wrote:

It's easier to tell ladies what to do then men

amother

↑ Cappuccino

Today at 3:06 pm

amother Red wrote:

It's easier to tell ladies what to do then men

This and they’re willing to work less hours for less, men typically want to support their families with a nice salary

amother

Mulberry

Today at 3:47 pm

Such a hard market rn! My husb was looking for a job a few months ago and was struggling so much! He bh has a degree and experience and ppl just didn’t want to pay what he was looking for. Bhh through connections and friends he got a job and is very happy. This is with experience and a degree. Making 100k with no experience likely won’t happen unless he starts his own bussiness. My husb started off making 50k a couple of years ago while he was still in college.

amother

Aconite

Today at 4:03 pm

https://oorahjobs.org/current-openings/

I know a few people who started working for Oorah after kollel and either moved up there or found higher level jobs elsewhere. It's a great place to start off.

amother

↑ Forsythia

Today at 4:35 pm

OP, correction: I'm not bashing your DH. I'm bashing the kollel system and the society that keeps urging men to learn in yeshiva and to heck with making a living. What are we, lilies of the field? (Christian reference, btw.) The Talmud tells us that a father is obligated to teach his son a trade as well as Torah. Apparently, the kollel world didn't get that part of the memo.