Are boys allowed to aim?

amother

Jade

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 8:49 am

Chassidish boys are taught to position themselves with proper posture to aim touch free.

My 3 yr old's rebbe was able to identify a correctable issue with my son hen he took the boys for potty time because he couldn't achieve that. He needed a minor procedure and is now perfectly fine bh.

amother

Peru ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 9:12 am

amother Cantaloupe wrote:

Let's clarify.
Some men (boys) body's aim beautifully without assistance. Awesome.
Some don't! Needs a little help.
Chasidish here. Boys house. Very rebbish friends, neighbors, playground teachers etc. All help boys learn to aim. They do not need to actually touch eiver. Can use tissue sleeve undershirt etc at top to help aim without ever actually touching eiver.
If your boys don't have good aim please teach them

Can you please explain the reasoning behind this? Do they not wash their pen1s when bathing or showering? And what if he needs to "help" to enter his wife?

amother

↑ Cantaloupe ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 10:15 am

amother Jade wrote:

...it's only necessary when there is pain urinating. Foe some boys the extra snip helps with aim . Some times it grows back. Doesn't always work.
..not all people can position selves or have "corrective procedures " some guys need to to assist aim or won't get bulls eye

amother

↑ Freesia ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 10:16 am

amother Peru wrote:

Can you please explain the reasoning behind this? Do they not wash their pen1s when bathing or showering? And what if he needs to "help" to enter his wife?

During intimacy they can touch it.

amother

↑ Cantaloupe ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 10:17 am

amother Peru wrote:

Can you please explain the reasoning behind this? Do they not wash their pen1s when bathing or showering? And what if he needs to "help" to enter his wife?

...I feel like your blowing this out of context
..one can wash themselves without touching themselves (sponge, umph, soap bar)
...of course they should do what need with wife that the point here.
...there's no body shaming here just opposite. These days taught holy sacred etc.
.

amother

↑ Peru ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 10:38 am

amother Cantaloupe wrote:

Ah so they cant touch their pen1s with their bare hands but with something in between its not an issue?
And how can I blow something out of context if I have no idea why this is even a thing?
So its so that they wont ever come to want to masturb@te? Ok, to each their own. Ill stay in my lane.

amother

↑ Cantaloupe ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 11:40 am

amother Peru wrote:

...not touching p... is not just a chasidish thing....

amother

Turquoise

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 11:45 am

Not chassidish.

I've heard of men not touching specifically when going to the bathroom.
No idea what the source is.

amother

↑ Freesia

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 11:47 am

amother Cantaloupe wrote:

...not touching p... is not just a chasidish thing....

It basically is.

amother

Lightblue

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 11:50 am

amother Brickred wrote:

They don't need to hold themselves to aim. I feel like that would make it harder to go.

Depends on the kid. One of my boys needed a bit of help or he peed too high, I taught him to press down a bit on the area above & that did the trick.

If the aim is too off please speak to your Dr, it can be easily corrected.

amother

↑ Peru ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 11:57 am

amother Cantaloupe wrote:

...not touching p... is not just a chasidish thing....

I never mentioned chassidish anything. That was other people.

amother

↑ Cantaloupe ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 12:07 pm

amother Peru wrote:

I never mentioned chassidish anything. That was other people.

..I'm aware but your writing as if this is some foreign unheard of concept so just clarifying...

amother

Honeydew

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 12:12 pm

How about they sit down??? I hate when boys pee while standing up. No wonder most peoples bathrooms are disgusting with pee all over the place. Gross.

amother

↑ Peru ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 12:31 pm

amother Cantaloupe wrote:

..I'm aware but your writing as if this is some foreign unheard of concept so just clarifying...

To me it is. But again, I never said anything about a specific group of frum jews. Not even sure why thats something here in my reply or yours to mine.

Molly Weasley

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 12:49 pm

It's not chassidish.

The SA forbids unmarried men from touching them their p even while urinating.

Unmarried may never touch, and I don't think that there's a halachaic disagreement about it

amother

↑ Cantaloupe ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 1:20 pm

amother Peru wrote:

To me it is. But again, I never said anything about a specific group of frum jews. Not even sure why thats something here in my reply or yours to mine.

I'm being polite. Just want to understand. I hear you never heard the concept that men shouldn't touch selves. Why does that seem to touch a raw cord. Why is it an issue to you if boys and men are not touching their privates?

(Honestly I dont think any gender child needs hands down their. Not halacha just mom opinions)

amother

↑ Peru

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 1:43 pm

amother Cantaloupe wrote:

To me this seems like it will make more issues than if its a,non issue and if a kid, or adult, needs help to aim, it should be ok.
Its sezualizing something that is not.

GetReal ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 1:59 pm

Molly Weasley wrote:

It's not chassidish.

The SA forbids unmarried men from touching them their p even while urinating.

Unmarried may never touch, and I don't think that there's a halachaic disagreement about it

Where in shulchan aruch?

↑ GetReal

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 2:05 pm

GetReal wrote:

Where in shulchan aruch?

I found this. It’s talking specifically about while urinating. I’m curious what the nosei keilim say on this:

Unless he is married, one should take care not to grasp the organ except from the corona downwards and urinate, lest he bring forth seed in vain. However, it is a pious practice to take such care even if one is married.

(Shulchan aruch orach chaim 3:14)

amother

↑ Cantaloupe

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 2:07 pm

amother Peru wrote:

To me this seems like it will make more issues than if its a,non issue and if a kid, or adult, needs help to aim, it should be ok.
Its sezualizing something that is not.

I hear you. Thanks for explaining.
I dont really think it becomes an issue at least not in our house. Just a learnt way of doing something. Of course when I'm with my little guys I'll tell them to push it down they do in way they are used to there is no thought or shame just like telling a child to blow their nose they learn to do it into a tissue. No shame involved.