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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:09 pm
amother Lemon wrote:
Calling comical something that so many women are being Moser Nefesh on is the worst thing that can ever be done. Yeas, You can argue respectfully. But calling them comical should be denounced by everyone. No mater your actuel opinion about it.

There was a lot of posters before hers saying they dont wear anything at night non of them prompted me to respond. But! to make a joke out of such a holy and respected thing by so many of us that is what showes that something is wrong with her fundamental respecrt to judaism as a hole. And I stand by that.

She referred to herself/her situation as comical.
The only poster that is being disrespectful & rude to others, is you with your outrageous posts.
Maybe you should start educating yourself a bit instead of shaming others that don't do what you decided is halacha.
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:13 pm
amother Copper wrote:
Hair is made to be uncovered when we're with our husband.


And if my husband and I both want to cover our heads does it really effect you?
You do you and I'll do me.
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:15 pm
amother Wine wrote:
And if my husband and I both want to cover our heads does it really effect you?
You do you and I'll do me.


Right.
But it's still not wrong or less then to uncover in bed.
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:16 pm
amother Dill wrote:
You didn’t understand. She was saying it would be comical for her since she’s naked. Not that it’s comical anyone else wears one. I think you owe her an apology.


Sure. Ill apologise if I read it wrongly. wish I head.

So let me understand, How can it be comical for her and not for anyone else if the same thing is being done to both?
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:17 pm
We got a heter for DH to wear an undershirt when we're together. Everyone has their things and follows what they learned/their Rav.
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:17 pm
amother Crimson wrote:
One CAN sleep with a head covering in all these scenarios.
The question is if it's REQUIRED.
And if a woman doesn't, it's ok to challenge her that maybe she doesn't eat kosher, and maybe she's not really frum.

Edit to add, that many Rabbanim hold that during intimacy a head covering is NOT ALLOWED because husband and wife need to be totally undressed to become 'basar echad'.

I just want to make sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that if a woman doesn’t sleep with her head covered, which is NOT required according to Halacha, it’s ok to question if she keeps Halacha at all?
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:17 pm
amother Lemon wrote:
Sure. Ill apologise if I read it wrongly. wish I head.

So let me understand, How can it be comical for her and not for anyone else if the same thing is being done to both?


Do you sleep naked? She’s talking about sleeping naked, maybe if you sleep naked and cover your hair you can make that claim. But if you don’t she’s still not talking about you.
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:19 pm
amother Lemon wrote:
We are not Rabbanim and are not the ones knowing or should be interested in sources. Illl leave this for the Rabbanim who spent their entire life for that.

The only thing I know is that playing with our hair covering is like playing with fire! Nothing comical about it!!

Why in the world shouldn’t we know the sources for halachos? Especially those which apply to us personally! How easily manipulated would we be if we never knew the sources for anything. That sounds awful!
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:19 pm
Ema of 5 wrote:
I just want to make sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that if a woman doesn’t sleep with her head covered, which is NOT required according to Halacha, it’s ok to question if she keeps Halacha at all?


No. I need to edit. I should have written not ok

Edited. Thank you for pointing it out to me
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:21 pm
Ema of 5 wrote:
I just want to make sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that if a woman doesn’t sleep with her head covered, which is NOT required according to Halacha, it’s ok to question if she keeps Halacha at all?


You got it totally backwards. Tongue Out
Only time to question one's halachik religious level (which other humans should never do) is if they are intimate WITH head coverings on! Hi
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:22 pm
amother Lemon wrote:
Calling comical something that so many women are being Moser Nefesh on is the worst thing that can ever be done. Yeas, You can argue respectfully. But calling them comical should be denounced by everyone. No mater your actuel opinion about it.

There was a lot of posters before hers saying they dont wear anything at night non of them prompted me to respond. But! to make a joke out of such a holy and respected thing by so many of us that is what showes that something is wrong with her fundamental respecrt to judaism as a hole. And I stand by that.

Clearly you misunderstood what she said. She said it would be comical for HER PERSONALLY if she were to sleep with her hair covered, because SHE doesn’t wear pajamas to sleep. She said nothing about anyone else, or what anyone else can/should/does/doesn't do. She was ONLY talking about herself.
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:25 pm
amother Copper wrote:
Hair is made to be uncovered when we're with our husband.

I believe there are legitimate sources for keeping it covered. Either way is ok.
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:31 pm
amother Puce wrote:
We got a heter for DH to wear an undershirt when we're together. Everyone has their things and follows what they learned/their Rav.


Why does he wear an undershirt ?
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:34 pm
amother Bergamot wrote:
Why does he wear an undershirt ?


Maybe he sweats a lot and she doesn't like it.
Honestly with all do respect do people need to ask a sheila if something is going to be better for both of them???
Would be similar if we kept going and still had some lingerie on . Would anyone stop to call rabbi first??
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  Ema of 5  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:34 pm
amother Wine wrote:
You got it totally backwards. Tongue Out
Only time to question one's halachik religious level (which other humans should never do) is if they are intimate WITH head coverings on! Hi

I hope that’s a joke!
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:40 pm
Ema of 5 wrote:
I hope that’s a joke!


...sorry thought that's obvious
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:45 pm
amother Wine wrote:
...sorry thought that's obvious

I thought so, but on this thread you can’t be sure.
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:48 pm
amother Bergamot wrote:
Why does he wear an undershirt ?


He had major surgery. For those wondering, I got a heter to still touch him, I went to the mikvah even though I couldnt be with him that night, and yes, we waited until he got the go ahead from the dr.
we also learned that you're not supposed to be dressed. So we asked a Sheila if we can do it with somthing in between us.
For us personally, we thought it was the right thing to do to ask about all these things that came up. For others, they might not.
To each his own.
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:49 pm
amother Puce wrote:
He had major surgery. For those wondering, I got a heter to still touch him, I went to the mikvah even though I couldnt be with him that night, and yes, we waited until he got the go ahead from the dr.
we also learned that you're not supposed to be dressed. So we asked a Sheila if we can do it with somthing in between us.
For us personally, we thought it was the right thing to do to ask about all these things that came up. For others, they might not.
To each his own.


Hope he’s feeling better.
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amother
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Post Mon, Nov 18 2024, 12:53 pm
[quote="amother Bergamot"]Hope he’s feeling better.[/quote

Slow, but good b"h.
Thank you
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