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amother
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 Yesterday at 10:45 pm
| amother OP wrote: | Im mean asking around... hear from everyone and make decisions accordingly....
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Respectfully saying this, she should please do her own research and above all discuss with medical professionals that know her child.
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amother
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Yesterday at 11:17 pm
Most important, keep your baby away from everyone. Rsv is awful for a premie. Don't take your baby to parties or family gatherings.
When my sister had a premie she wasn't allowed to kiss her baby.
Talk to your pediatrician. They should be able to discuss a delayed vaccination schedule. My kids were healthy full term babies, I spaced out all their shots.
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amother
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Yesterday at 11:19 pm
thank you for your input... if she asked me than there's more to it...
| amother Orchid wrote: | | Respectfully saying this, she should please do her own research and above all discuss with medical professionals that know her child. |
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amother
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Today at 12:10 am
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all that your doctor recommends. they are completely safe and your pediatrician is on your side.
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amother
Lightcyan
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Today at 5:10 am
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Asking on here is not research
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amother
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Today at 5:19 am
| amother Cappuccino wrote: | | all that your doctor recommends. they are completely safe and your pediatrician is on your side. | lol
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amother
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Today at 5:21 am
| amother OP wrote: | mostly dr follow there books tell patient to take it but vaccination is decision to make on the mother at least I think so..
| Right I hope so
are they allowed to advise delaying
My doctor said he isn't paid if he doesn't vaccinate
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amother
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Today at 7:39 am
| amother Royalblue wrote: | Right I hope so
are they allowed to advise delaying
My doctor said he isn't paid if he doesn't vaccinate |
Doctors get huge bonuses for every % of vaccinated patients. The higher the number the greater. I saw the documents
It’s a huge reason many doctors push vaccines without giving informed consent (which is legally required)
Im referring to that insert that shows side effects and warnings. Black box warnings and side effect warnings mean something..they can’t be sued.
A preemie barely has an immune system. How are they supposed to fight foreign injected substances which include adjuvants which are designed to trigger the immune system by stressing it?? The baby doesn’t have that ability yet.
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amother
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Today at 9:54 am
| amother Royalblue wrote: | Right I hope so
are they allowed to advise delaying
My doctor said he isn't paid if he doesn't vaccinate |
I don’t know if this is true (because no doc has ever said this to me)*
And as a matter of fact I was between 2 pediatricians for a couple of years. A local one for more urgent matters, and one further away that we did well visits and some sick visits. We usually gave vaccines at the one further away, maybe once or twice at the local one. No one ever cared or said anything about the other provider vaccinating.
* eta, we’ve been through quite a few pediatric offices between my handful of kids ke’h and moves.
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amother
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Today at 9:54 am
| amother Viola wrote: | Doctors get huge bonuses for every % of vaccinated patients. The higher the number the greater. I saw the documents
It’s a huge reason many doctors push vaccines without giving informed consent (which is legally required)
Im referring to that insert that shows side effects and warnings. Black box warnings and side effect warnings mean something..they can’t be sued.
A preemie barely has an immune system. How are they supposed to fight foreign injected substances which include adjuvants which are designed to trigger the immune system by stressing it?? The baby doesn’t have that ability yet. |
Can you explain this in the reverse?
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amother
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Today at 10:11 am
I’m sorry, I don’t understand your question
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amother
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Today at 10:16 am
| Code: | | A preemie barely has an immune system. How are they supposed to fight foreign injected substances which include adjuvants which are designed to trigger the immune system by stressing it |
What happens if it’s stressed by a vaccine preventable illness? If there’s no immune system, your statement makes no sense
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amother
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Today at 10:20 am
| amother OP wrote: | thank you for your input... if she asked me than there's more to it...
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I’m sure there’s more to the story. But really, unless she’s cognitively impaired, she should really know all facts to make such a major decision. Which is exactly why this is not the best place for research.
In any case, where does your sister live? If she lives in a specific area, I have a good pediatrician recommendation for her/you to discuss.
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amother
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Today at 10:22 am
True but they dont get that much though.. I saw it once on my bill
The side affects is unbelievable... I have one child since I gave the mmr shot she keeps on itching herself and got rashes and pimples... why does my doctor keep on saying it's nothing it's something else it will go away with time which I know fsure it's from the vaccine and they don't want to recorded in there system that my child got reaction from it.?? There's a reason behind I'm sure
quote="amother Viola"]Doctors get huge bonuses for every % of vaccinated patients. The higher the number the greater. I saw the documents
It’s a huge reason many doctors push vaccines without giving informed consent (which is legally required)
Im referring to that insert that shows side effects and warnings. Black box warnings and side effect warnings mean something..they can’t be sued.
A preemie barely has an immune system. How are they supposed to fight foreign injected substances which include adjuvants which are designed to trigger the immune system by stressing it?? The baby doesn’t have that ability yet.[/quote]
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amother
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Today at 10:30 am
Which area??
quote="amother Orchid"]I’m sure there’s more to the story. But really, unless she’s cognitively impaired, she should really know all facts to make such a major decision. Which is exactly why this is not the best place for research.
In any case, where does your sister live? If she lives in a specific area, I have a good pediatrician recommendation for her/you to discuss.[/quote]
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amother
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Today at 10:32 am
| amother Orchid wrote: | | Code: | | A preemie barely has an immune system. How are they supposed to fight foreign injected substances which include adjuvants which are designed to trigger the immune system by stressing it |
What happens if it’s stressed by a vaccine preventable illness? If there’s no immune system, your statement makes no sense |
The body is overwhelmed and won’t produce antibodies so there’s no point in giving the vaccine
vaccines have ingredients meant to “trigger” the body into action which are also irritants-Some of which cross the blood brain barrier and affect the brain-such as aluminum
I found this during a simple search: “One study found a possible association between exposure to aluminum from vaccines and the development of persistent asthma in children. However, the CDC did not change vaccine recommendations based on this study, and further investigation is needed”
Until the immune system is well established the preemie needs to be protected from both: illness and germs AND any foreign substance the body can have negative consequences to
The fact that there’s something called informed consent, and the inserts have warnings of side effects, some mild and some potentially dangerous/deadly, we need to be careful with preemies and let them grow and mature abit before vaccinating
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amother
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Today at 10:37 am
| amother OP wrote: | True but they dont get that much though.. I saw it once on my bill
The side affects is unbelievable... I have one child since I gave the mmr shot she keeps on itching herself and got rashes and pimples... why does my doctor keep on saying it's nothing it's something else it will go away with time which I know fsure it's from the vaccine and they don't want to recorded in there system that my child got reaction from it.?? There's a reason behind I'm sure
quote="amother Viola"]Doctors get huge bonuses for every % of vaccinated patients. The higher the number the greater. I saw the documents
It’s a huge reason many doctors push vaccines without giving informed consent (which is legally required)
Im referring to that insert that shows side effects and warnings. Black box warnings and side effect warnings mean something..they can’t be sued.
A preemie barely has an immune system. How are they supposed to fight foreign injected substances which include adjuvants which are designed to trigger the immune system by stressing it?? The baby doesn’t have that ability yet. | [/quote]
Yes same here. My kids got terrible reactions after they got their shots. My last child I spaced it out and haven’t seen any issues
Skin reactions mean the body is trying to push something out. Our largest organ is our skin. I if the child’s body is irritated or has a reaction inside, the body will attempt to push it out. Same as with allergic reactions..you see hives when the body wants the allergin OUT
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amother
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Today at 10:52 am
| amother Viola wrote: | The body is overwhelmed and won’t produce antibodies so there’s no point in giving the vaccine
vaccines have ingredients meant to “trigger” the body into action which are also irritants-Some of which cross the blood brain barrier and affect the brain-such as aluminum
I found this during a simple search: “One study found a possible association between exposure to aluminum from vaccines and the development of persistent asthma in children. However, the CDC did not change vaccine recommendations based on this study, and further investigation is needed”
Until the immune system is well established the preemie needs to be protected from both: illness and germs AND any foreign substance the body can have negative consequences to
The fact that there’s something called informed consent, and the inserts have warnings of side effects, some mild and some potentially dangerous/deadly, we need to be careful with preemies and let them grow and mature abit before vaccinating |
I’m sorry, that’s just not true across the board. I’m not saying there are no situations like this, but a preemie is not the same as someone with a primary immune deficiency/ scid. I mean you can do titer testing and immune workup if you’re that concerned. But spreading misinformation is dangerous.
Again, she should see what’s best for her specific situation, which may very well be to delay vaccines. But to throw out info like this is dishonest.
Of course it goes without saying to protect the baby the most possible. But you can’t live in a bubble. And it’s not even healthy to live in a bubble, short of a person post bone marrow transplant or other severe immune suppression situation.
(Speaking as a mother of an immunocompromised kiddo)
Eta, I don’t mean a newborn preemie. Which is the discussion here
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amother
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Today at 11:01 am
| amother Orchid wrote: | I’m sorry, that’s just not true across the board. I’m not saying there are no situations like this, but a preemie is not the same as someone with a primary immune deficiency/ scid. I mean you can do titer testing and immune workup if you’re that concerned. But spreading misinformation is dangerous.
Again, she should see what’s best for her specific situation, which may very well be to delay vaccines. But to throw out info like this is dishonest.
Of course it goes without saying to protect the baby the most possible. But you can’t live in a bubble. And it’s not even healthy to live in a bubble, short of a person post bone marrow transplant or other severe immune suppression situation.
(Speaking as a mother of an immunocompromised kiddo)
Eta, I don’t mean a newborn preemie. Which is the discussion here |
It's possible they won't mount a proper response, but most drs aren't testing so people don't know.
That said, the bigger concern here is safety, not efficacy.
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amother
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Today at 11:07 am
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I would speak to her doctor. I just had my 4 year old's wellness checkup and she was due for 4 vaccines. That's a lot for a kid who rarely gets sick. He let me give 2 and said we can do the other 2 next year.
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