Whole roasted cauliflower- how is it kosher

amother

Brown

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 12:23 pm

amother Quince wrote:

Lol and to me that's pointless what's an asparagus if not for the tops

Asparagus without the tops are delicious

amother

↑ Catmint ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 12:24 pm

amother DarkPurple wrote:

BTW I have seen these insects with my naked eye.

Someone in kashrut once showed me on garlic. I would never have realized what it was on my own.

↑ mizle10

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 1:56 pm

amother Cerulean wrote:

Throw the tomatoes but bugs are overrated. I don’t mean it’s ok to eat bugs, I mean that the whole “bug free” vegetable industry is mostly a scam and very often the “bug free” vegetables you’re paying triple the amount for do actually have plenty of bugs, but either they pretend they don’t see them or they they rely on far fetched loophole heterim because of “financial loss”. Think frozen broccoli and more.

There are also some vegetable brands that are just as likely to be bug free as the “kosher” brands but the hashgachos won’t give their stamp of approval cuz it means the kosher companies will lose money. Some triple washed spring mixes, etc.

Bugs that are not visible to the naked eye are allowed to be eaten. Let’s not forget that.

I know personally from insiders in the industry.

You can see them, they just don’t look like a bug to the naked eye. They look like a dot.

amother

Wandflower

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 2:16 pm

Whoever wants to check their own Star K says in US or Canada - wash well and slice cauliflower or broccoli head into at least 8 pieces, or smaller. Fill a basin with warm water and add cleaner so the water feels "slippery." Soak produce for 20-30 minutes to better loosen the heads. Then RINSE WELL under a strong stream of water.
Refill the basin with warm water and again add cleaner so the water feels "slippery." Add the produce.
Let soak for 30 seconds BEFORE agitating vigorously for 15 seconds, then remove the produce and shake excess water over the basin. Set produce aside.
Check water for infestation by placing white basin of water over light. If insects are found, repeat steps 1-5. This can be done up to 3 times. If insects are still found on the 3rd try, the produce should not be used.

↑ Bnei Berak 10 ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 2:21 pm

amother Smokey wrote:

I buy Badatz Eidah Hachareidis greenhouse grown cabbage.
It still says "חובה להפריד עלים"

For cabbage you certainly need to follow the instructions as you stated. For cauliflower I'm not sure what instructions are.

↑ Bnei Berak 10 ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 2:23 pm

amother Stoneblue wrote:

Right but in the pictures the triangles aren’t cut off

As Elfrida said, pics are for illustration only.

Cheiny ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 3:24 pm

amother Dill wrote:

It's not! There's no way to check whole cauliflower, same goes for sliced roasted cabbage. Looks delicious but can't be checked properly!

I was also told by a well known mashgiach that whole heads of garlic shouldn’t be used, the tips and bottoms of every clove should be snipped off as they can have bugs.

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↑ Cheiny ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 3:28 pm

amother Dill wrote:

My DH works in this field and what you're saying is just not true.
If you checked a bodek bag of frozen broccoli and found it infested, I can't believe the company didn't take action to remove batch from the market.
(This is pure lashon hara btw. Motsi shem ra?)

I don’t think blanket statements can be made. I had a bag of fresh cauliflower with a known name hashgacha that “checking not necessary,” and it was full of bugs. I contacted them and response- basically nothing is fool proof.

amother

↑ DarkPurple ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 3:52 pm

Cheiny wrote:

I was also told by a well known mashgiach that whole heads of garlic shouldn’t be used, the tips and bottoms of every clove should be snipped off as they can have bugs.

I posted about this. Snipping is not enough. You need to peel each clove.

amother

↑ Whitewash

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 3:54 pm

Cheiny wrote:

Contact the kashrus agency. And let them know that you already contacted the company and they did nothing.

AllThings ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 4:25 pm

amother DarkPurple wrote:

BTW I have seen these insects with my naked eye.

Me too. Usually looks like grains of sand.
Just because I don't recognize it for what it is, doesn't make it okay to eat.

↑ AllThings ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 4:29 pm

Cheiny wrote:

I was also told by a well known mashgiach that whole heads of garlic shouldn’t be used, the tips and bottoms of every clove should be snipped off as they can have bugs.

Under the outer peel (the one surrounding the set of cloves) outside the inner peel (around each individual clove) is usually the issue. So after the garlic is peeled (recommended to keep away from other food while peeling), each clove should be rinsed

↑ Cheiny ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 6:25 pm

amother DarkPurple wrote:

I posted about this. Snipping is not enough. You need to peel each clove.

Yes obviously. But also cut off each end of each clove.

↑ Cheiny ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 6:25 pm

AllThings wrote:

The mashgiach told me each individual clove has to be snipped.

amother

Lilac ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 6:26 pm

AllThings wrote:

I have never heard of this before - thanks for alerting me to this. I rarely buy fresh garlic, and when I do, I buy the already peeled ones!

amother

Firebrick

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 7:01 pm

mizle10 wrote:

You can see them, they just don’t look like a bug to the naked eye. They look like a dot.

Spin off but WHAT?! I never knew I had to check fresh garlic. What am I looking for?

amother

Petunia

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 7:20 pm

amother Firebrick wrote:

Spin off but WHAT?! I never knew I had to check fresh garlic. What am I looking for?

I find Star K app very helpful
If you buy a thrip cloth it comes with their guide that shows pictures of the bugs

amother

↑ DarkPurple ↓

Tue, Oct 29 2024, 9:59 pm

amother Firebrick wrote:

Spin off but WHAT?! I never knew I had to check fresh garlic. What am I looking for?

You can wash it off. Dont need to check since its smooth. The reason I saw the insect (thrip?) Was because I had just heard about this problem so the next time I used garlic I paid attention and lo and behold we saw it. It was white like the exact color the garlic was and a tiny skinny worm thing. But then it started crawling.