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amother
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 Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:17 pm
And I feel TERRIBLE
I am not exactly on top of my game in general 😞, I remembered in the middle of the night.
She usually comes 4-5 hours.
She came, called, texted and waited an hour.
I need to text her back to apologize.
Any help what to message her?
I really want her to know I feel bad.
Also should I offer to pay her half or the whole time?
Please don't judge, I feel bad enough.
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amother
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:19 pm
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I would pay her for the day
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amother
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:20 pm
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I don't think you need to pay her for more than the hour that she spent waiting. But it depends on your relationship with her. I would apologize for not responding and explain it was a holiday. And then set up your schedule for the next few weeks....
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Ima Piano
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:20 pm
| amother OP wrote: | And I feel TERRIBLE
I am not exactly on top of my game in general 😞, I remembered in the middle of the night.
She usually comes 4-5 hours.
She came, called, texted and waited an hour.
I need to text her back to apologize.
Any help what to message her?
I really want her to know I feel bad.
Also should I offer to pay her half or the whole time?
Please don't judge, I feel bad enough. |
Tell her your really sorry but you had so much on your head and forgot to let her know not to come. Explain to her it was the holidays and you were not home. Offer to pay for the whole time she came to you to work and you weren't there. Tell her the truth and apologize
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:22 pm
You pay for the hours you were supposed to have her!!! Treat her well she will treat you well.
It’s on you to ask if she wants day off (that’s when I don’t pay for the day) or ask if she wants to work at a neighbor (and find a replacement). But if she wants to work and neighbors don’t want I pay for my time.
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amother
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:23 pm
| amother Glitter wrote: | | I don't think you need to pay her for more than the hour that she spent waiting. But it depends on your relationship with her. I would apologize for not responding and explain it was a holiday. And then set up your schedule for the next few weeks.... | .
Why shouldn't she pay for the whole day? The lady went to work expecting to make a certain amount of money why shouldn't she?
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amother
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:24 pm
| amother Candycane wrote: | You pay for the hours you were supposed to have her!!! Treat her well she will treat you well.
It’s on you to ask if she wants day off (that’s when I don’t pay for the day) or ask if she wants to work at a neighbor (and find a replacement). But if she wants to work and neighbors don’t want I pay for my time. |
This is nice of you but not necessary, you can cancel a day and not pay, you don't have to offer replacement.
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Aconite
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:26 pm
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Happened to me once, I paid her travel time and wait time (3h total) which was about half anyways
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amother
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:32 pm
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Halachicly you might need to pay her if she actually showed up to work.
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:33 pm
| amother Candycane wrote: | You pay for the hours you were supposed to have her!!! Treat her well she will treat you well.
It’s on you to ask if she wants day off (that’s when I don’t pay for the day) or ask if she wants to work at a neighbor (and find a replacement). But if she wants to work and neighbors don’t want I pay for my time. |
One day you will learn the hard way that this isn’t true
It will hurt more
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amother
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:34 pm
| amother Catmint wrote: | .
Why shouldn't she pay for the whole day? The lady went to work expecting to make a certain amount of money why shouldn't she? |
I get why you would pay her for the day, but I don't think it's a must. She didn't actually do the work or spend the full time at work. As someone who gets paid by the hour, I sometimes have a shorter day than expected and it's too bad on me... no one pays my full day rate if I don't have a full day a work to do.... for example, on the day after isru chag my school opens an hour late - that means I make an hour less of pay.... sometimes I show up to work for a full day and school is dismissed early without warning because of a rebbish chasunah... I don't get paid for that time either. She didn't work or stay the full time so you aren't required to pay her, in my opinion. Is it nice to, sure. But not necessary.
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:36 pm
I would pay extra, if she called, texted, AND waited an hour.
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:39 pm
OP, where were you while she was waiting an hour? Were you home? Were you in shul? How do you know she waited an hour?
Whatever you decide, when you talk to her, make sure you go over the rest of the month with her. If you don’t want her coming over chag, let her know NOW about succos.
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amother
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:39 pm
| amother Glitter wrote: | | I get why you would pay her for the day, but I don't think it's a must. She didn't actually do the work or spend the full time at work. As someone who gets paid by the hour, I sometimes have a shorter day than expected and it's too bad on me... no one pays my full day rate if I don't have a full day a work to do.... for example, on the day after isru chag my school opens an hour late - that means I make an hour less of pay.... sometimes I show up to work for a full day and school is dismissed early without warning because of a rebbish chasunah... I don't get paid for that time either. She didn't work or stay the full time so you aren't required to pay her, in my opinion. Is it nice to, sure. But not necessary. |
I understand but don't agree for this situation
If the cleaning lady would leave early for an appointment and she would work less than sure pay her less but she showed up and she deserves pay for the day
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bayis ne’eman
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:46 pm
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I would pay her for the full day .
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:57 pm
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I would pay for the full day since it’s you’re fault.. it’s fine that you forgot but it’s not her problem that you forgot..
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mommyhood
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 10:57 pm
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I did this once. I apologized and paid her for the full day. I don’t pay her when I cancel in advance but paying her in that situation was a no brainier to me.
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 11:02 pm
| amother Glitter wrote: | | I don't think you need to pay her for more than the hour that she spent waiting. But it depends on your relationship with her. I would apologize for not responding and explain it was a holiday. And then set up your schedule for the next few weeks.... |
She may have been able to get another job for the full amount if she would have known.
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amother
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Sat, Oct 05 2024, 11:55 pm
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This happened to me also on Friday except my help is hired out by. 3rd person who always confirms with me first. She didn’t get a response of course but sent her anyway I still felt so bad I wasn’t clear I didn’t need her and paid for her travel time about an hour.
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