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esther11  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 8:19 am
I decided I want to start making sourdough. A friend of mine has starter for me so I can skip that step. I also watched a few videos on the basic stretch and fold process.

What are the must haves that I need to purchase before starting (I’m talking square one)? And does anyone have a good basic recipe?
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 8:21 am
If you were thinking of baking for this shabbos, it’s too late. It’s a 3 day process
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  esther11  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 8:24 am
amother Canary wrote:
If you were thinking of baking for this shabbos, it’s too late. It’s a 3 day process


Oh no of course not! I’m hoping for next week.
I would start Thursday morning and bake it Friday afternoon I think.
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Chayalle  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 9:43 am
You need
* banneton (proofing dish) which will store your dough in the fridge.
* Dutch Oven to bake it in.
* Some use rice flour but I use regular.
* ingredients - starter, salt, high gluten flour (or whatever flour your recipe is calling for) and warm water.
* Plastic wrap.
* Parchment paper.
* Container for starter (I use a disposable).
* Some use a scraping paddle when shaping (I do because it came with my banneton, but not everyone does.)
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 9:51 am
Chayalle list is great.

- I don’t like my bannetons. I found a 86 oz deli container works well for storing dough in fridge and rising stage. I line with paper towels. It’s easier to clean.

- my family doesn’t like the rice flour. They rather have spices or sesame seeds on sourdough.

- parchment paper is needed to line Dutch oven. I find the pre-cut Betty Crocker parchment paper the perfect size. And if you get on sale cheaper.

- I use disposable shower caps instead of plastic wrap to cover my dough while rising and storing. I find it easier to work with.

- you can find Dutch ovens reasonably priced at home goods/Marshall’s/tj maxx

I’ve been hearing that ppl are using the black speckled roasting pans to bake their sourdough. They are lighter and don’t get as hot (less bad burns). I’d say to see if anyone knows more but I think it’s something to look into.
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 9:52 am
Chayalle wrote:
You need

* Plastic wrap.
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Best idea ever, giving credit where it’s due here, chantzyw suggests buying disposable shower caps instead. Elastic fits perfectly over banneton and it’s so much easier!
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 9:56 am
I love using a small rubber spatula for mixing starter, officially it’s not supposed to touch metal
Like this https://www.amazon.com/Vovoly-.....;th=1

I proof in a big glass bowl

A scoring tool is essential https://www.amazon.com/JJOO-Br.....psc=1

I never used a Dutch oven, I use a metal challa pan like this

https://www.amazon.com/Magic-M.....r=8-2

My recipe is
130 g starter
675 g water
1 kilo flour
18 g salt
I make 3 challos with it
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 9:58 am
amother Nemesia wrote:
Best idea ever, giving credit where it’s due here, chantzyw suggests buying disposable shower caps instead. Elastic fits perfectly over banneton and it’s so much easier!

Or just use this
https://www.amazon.com/Keeping.....r=8-5
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  esther11  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 10:02 am
This is all so helpful thank you!!

I feel like everything is relatively inexpensive except the Dutch ovens, is there a way to skip that initially? If I end up making weekly then I would totally purchase, but I’m not sure how this will play out!
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 10:04 am
amother Canary wrote:
Or just use this
https://www.amazon.com/Keeping.....r=8-5


It’s the same thing
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amother
Denim


 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 10:07 am
esther11 wrote:
This is all so helpful thank you!!

I feel like everything is relatively inexpensive except the Dutch ovens, is there a way to skip that initially? If I end up making weekly then I would totally purchase, but I’m not sure how this will play out!
For a long time I just baked in a Pyrex pie dish
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 10:08 am
You will also need a food scale that measures in grams.
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 10:10 am
amother Denim wrote:
For a long time I just baked in a Pyrex pie dish


Is Pyrex safe on such high temp?

Op for the 1st few times I made I did it in a disposable deep 9x13 foil pan. Or the round deep disposable foil
Needs to be lined with parchment no matter where
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 10:10 am
amother Bluebonnet wrote:
You will also need a food scale that measures in grams.

Omg yes definitely a food scale!!!!! So important
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amother
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Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 10:20 am
Another point . If taking starter from a friend. Have it in your house atleast from Sunday and feed like once a day so that it gets acclimated to your environment.

Taking starter from someone doesn't mean it will be perfect for you right away.
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readreread




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 11:32 am
Instead of a banneton, I recommend a clear straight-sided container (preferably with measurements) so you can see how much it has risen. It takes a while to rise so I often let mine go overnight.
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amother
Dandelion


 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 11:50 am
esther11 wrote:
This is all so helpful thank you!!

I feel like everything is relatively inexpensive except the Dutch ovens, is there a way to skip that initially? If I end up making weekly then I would totally purchase, but I’m not sure how this will play out!


I would say that the Dutch oven is honestly the most important thing. I gave in and bought one and honestly use it alot for other things too.
You can do everything 100% right but if you don't bake it with steam (easiest of which is in a Dutch oven) you will be very disappointed. I tried other steam methods and it didn't work.
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  Chayalle  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 12:01 pm
amother Canary wrote:
I love using a small rubber spatula for mixing starter, officially it’s not supposed to touch metal
Like this https://www.amazon.com/Vovoly-.....;th=1

I proof in a big glass bowl

A scoring tool is essential https://www.amazon.com/JJOO-Br.....psc=1

I never used a Dutch oven, I use a metal challa pan like this

https://www.amazon.com/Magic-M.....r=8-2

My recipe is
130 g starter
675 g water
1 kilo flour
18 g salt
I make 3 challos with it


Didn't know about the metal.

I use a regular serrated knife to make the cut, but if you want to do fancy designs you nee dthe scoring tool.
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  Chayalle  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 12:02 pm
amother Bluebonnet wrote:
You will also need a food scale that measures in grams.


yes forgot the food scale. Must.
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  Chayalle




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Sep 20 2024, 12:04 pm
amother Canary wrote:
I love using a small rubber spatula for mixing starter, officially it’s not supposed to touch metal
Like this https://www.amazon.com/Vovoly-.....;th=1

I proof in a big glass bowl

A scoring tool is essential https://www.amazon.com/JJOO-Br.....psc=1

I never used a Dutch oven, I use a metal challa pan like this

https://www.amazon.com/Magic-M.....r=8-2

My recipe is
130 g starter
675 g water
1 kilo flour
18 g salt
I make 3 challos with it


You bake it uncovered? I use a Dutch Oven and I cover for half way, and then uncover the rest of the time while baking.
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