Chassidish minhagim regarding foods

amother

OP ↓

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 8:00 am

Hi, I have many chasidish friends (pupa, belz, klausenberg, visnitz, bobov)that eat a very limited amount of fruits and vegetables only if it's linked to their masorah. I also know that certain chassidim don't eat garlic, or fish, I'm wondering what spices are allowed? What fruits and vegetables are allowed? (What about pineapple, watermelon and cantaloupe?) (What about frozen fruits and vegetables (like broccoli and cauliflower)What other foods are allowed or restricted. I'm told that many find it a hardship to eat shmaltz so oil has become more allowed is that true?. Also what dictates the minhagim on pesach is it 1)the chassidis/rebbe 2)masorah of fathers or mother ?-which one.

Thanks I hope someone has time to answer my questions.

amother

Pistachio

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 8:08 am

We dont eat any other fruits, other than apples and oranges.
Vegetable, only Lettuce, (soup vegatables).
No spices, just sugar and salt.
switched to oil.
Reason: mesorah of my parents. (Though we eat alot more than they did).

amother

Wandflower ↓

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 8:14 am

No frozen fruits and vegetables since those

1. have been processed (not in their natural state anymore, have been cut by somebody else, sometimes cooked/blanched), so their mesorah doesn't allow it as they're very careful to process their own food for fear of chometz

2. have been peeled (or like broccoli or cauliflower, cannot be peeled). Anything that's already been peeled there's a risk that it's been mixed/brined/processed with something else. Only produce that can be peeled is brought into the home, as they can be sure it's still in it's natural state, and if it touches anything along the way, they're peeling it anyway before they can eat it.

In short the minhag was to make everything from scratch on pesach since they didn't trust food that started being processed outside the home, or didn't have a layer they could remove to assure nothing untoward had touched the food before it reached them.

amother

Pink ↓

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 9:00 am

amother OP wrote:

Everyone has different minhagim. Some chassidish eat everything, some eat almost nothing.
The spices we use are salt, pepper, paprika. We use all fruits n veggies but only peeled. We use oil. We use basic ingredients like starch, sugar, chocolate chips, coco, Almond flour, baking powder/soda, ground nuts....
We eat snack, candy, dairy products. We eat fish. We don't use garlic. We don't use frozen fruits or veggies.
We do some minhagim from my in laws & some from my parents.

amother

Cobalt

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 9:16 am

amother Sage wrote:

Why do some women use their parents minhagim? Don’t minhagim go after your husband once you get married? It sounds like now you have double restrictions instead of just what your in laws do.

Usually people will take the leniencies from both parents and combine it to create their own minhagim going forward.

I know we did that. (Plus we added chocolate)

dankbar ↓

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 9:16 am

Because that's how mesorah in food prep was passed down. Girls learned from their moms, kashruth in kitchen, working alongside each others. If she is the one that's cooking she will do it the way her mother did it, unless there's a stark difference of what her husband allows or doesn't in contrast to the minhagim she grew up on.

Like if husband insists on certain things not being used. Or is from a diff sect where things are done differently.

Mostly mesorah is from parents. Sometimes from a rebbe. If you don't have the background. Or changed chassidus, or married to Chassidish.

Last edited by dankbar on Mon, Apr 22 2024, 9:21 am; edited 2 times in total

English3

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 9:22 am

We have some minhagim from parents and some from the chassidus. My parents eat more then us, we follow my in laws minhagim.
You wont find that all chasidim from one kehilla do the same. Many minhagim origanated from europe where they lived. Hungarian versus polish etc.

amother

↑ OP

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 9:27 am

Ots interesting to see the variety. I would love if you posted the chassidis you belong to. I found it interesting that a poster would be able to use candy with all the junk in it. But not frozen broccoli-which is just broccoli, I hope!

↑ dankbar

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 9:36 am

Everyone has diff mesorah and minhagim.

Some don't eat fish, some only live carp fish, some will eat gefilte fish some will make mixture on own. Some only falsche fish, is mock fish made from chicken.

I've heard people that don't eat beef, don't eat organ meats, like sweet bread and liver, dont eat gizzards. Just heard some people don't eat turkey.

Mostly it's only produce that can be peeled, some people will only use produce that was available back then in shtetl by their grandmoms. Like if they had no mangoes they won't use it.

Some people are makpid on no produce with small seeds, because it looks like grain, and what if a grain of wheat went inside. Like Cucumbers, Squash, eggplant, cantaloupe, any type of melons, pom, kiwi etc that's besides for only peeled fruit and veg. So no plums, peaches, apricots, grapes, berries, broccoli, cauliflower, mushrooms, spinach. Besides for no kitnyos, so no green beans, corn, rice, beans, peas, chic peas.

amother

↑ Pink ↓

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 9:44 am

amother OP wrote:

We're Viznitz. DH doesn’t eat candy, only me & the kids. (That’s how it is by both of our parents.)

amother

Dimgray

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 10:14 am

A lot of men are stricter with what they eat than their wife and children

A lot of food that people don't eat are due to the place that it grows or how it used to be kept fresh ect
For example I don't know if its still the case today but garlic used to grow next to wheat.
Or fish used to get kept fresh by placing a piece of bread In its mouth.

amother

↑ Amaranthus ↓

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 10:22 am

amother Dimgray wrote:

Fish was actually preserved in vinegar.

amother

Raspberry ↓

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 10:30 am

amother Dimgray wrote:

I never understood why these women who ask their husbands to be more lenient with them have issues with the men being more 'superior' in religion.
If you don't want to feel less then stop making yourself less then!
Yes I'm starving throughout pesach. Still, these are our minhagim and I'm not going to switch them just because I'm a woman.

Ruchel ↓

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 10:53 am

amother Cobalt wrote:

Usually people will take the leniencies from both parents and combine it to create their own minhagim going forward.

I know we did that. (Plus we added chocolate)

Only for Pessach?

Also my Bobov family pre war? Sounds like as my saba said charedi today wouldn't eat by charedi pre war 😉
Gebrokt 2 first days
No peel

amother

Scarlet ↓

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 10:55 am

amother Raspberry wrote:

Who said its the same women?

amother

Anemone

Mon, Apr 22 2024, 11:05 am

amother Pink wrote:

Same -Satmar
My parents also eat store bought cake and just started using garlic