No pumping room at work

heyatada

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 8:57 pm

Why don't you ask the manager or your principal if there is closet that u can use. They can give you a walk in closet or any closet that a chair fits in.
They need to provide you with somewhere to pump.

amother

Blue ↓

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 9:15 pm

My intention is not to cause the OP additional stress, but I just can't understand why it is so hard to stand up for something that has been a legal requirement for some time now.

You are not the only person this affects. Do you not think other women after you (frum women) will also be working and have the same need?

synthy

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 9:20 pm

I use a wearable pump at work, and pump in my cubicle. We do have a place to pump but for me this is easier than locking myself away for 20 minutes. The wearable isn’t as strong but I can wear it for longer since it’s so discreet.

funkyfrummom ↓

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 9:21 pm

amother OP wrote:

I live 30 minutes from school so it is not feasible for me to go back and forth. I do not even know who to speak to honestly. There are a bunch of principals, office administers, secretaries. They have a small room they put lunch for teachers in but I don't know if it is selfish if I use that room for 20 minutes to pump.

The person to talk to first would be whoever does their HR functions (they're the ones that understand that this is a legal requirement on them, not just a special request on your part). They will then coordinate with whomever is necessary to locate a compliant space.

amother

↑ Cherry ↓

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 10:19 pm

amother Antiquewhite wrote:

OP said she's a therapist, and doesn't even work for the school directly, so she can't really file a complaint

She didnt say she doesnt work for the school directly. OP needs to clarify who her employer is and if she is paid on a W2 or 1099, to determine her legal rights here

↑ funkyfrummom

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 10:22 pm

amother Antiquewhite wrote:

OP said she's a therapist, and doesn't even work for the school directly, so she can't really file a complaint

That makes sense... but don't the yeshivas contract with DOE for SETSS? Feels like she would be covered in some way.

OP may not be in NYC, but I just found this document with public lactation rooms that might be close to the yeshiva:
https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doh.....m.pdf

OP, if. you are not in NYC maybe there is something similar in your area.

CPenzias

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 10:25 pm

amother OP wrote:

I guess I could pump in my car but it isnt so tznius how would I even manage? I work in a neighborhood that is very busy and people are always walking by the streets.

Get a shawl or nursing cover and pump in your car. That's what I'd do.
I pumped for a year. I used my own classroom but if I couldn't I'd pump in my car do you have an adapter so you can plug your pump into the outlet in your car?

amother

↑ OP ↓

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 10:30 pm

Thnk you everyone. I really am not so confrontational if you could not tell. I am a w2 employer for a very well known heimish agency. I do not work for the school, I work for the agency. My pump is wireless, its the blue spectra.

amother

↑ Cherry ↓

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 11:08 pm

amother OP wrote:

So then the obligation would be on your employer, not the school. Does the agency employ 50 or more people?

They would have to arrange with the school to provide a room, even if they had to pay for "renting" a space from them, or even arranging via a 3rd party company a temporary pop up room that can be constructed on school property. If the only option is your car, they would have to pay for privacy covers to go over your windows and windshields

NotInNJMommy

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 11:12 pm

amother Tanzanite wrote:

If pumping is important to you then you should speak up. They are literally breaking state and federal laws if they only give you a bathroom. Sorry but that’s gross. I would rather pump in a janitors close. All you need is an outlet. You can technically sit on the floor.

Also, it’s a yeshiva. What does it mean if an institution dedicated to Torah learning doesn’t actually enable its staff to have and raise babies with dignity???

amother

Brown

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 11:15 pm

I work in a frum school, I was basically laughed at when I told them I wasn’t comfortable pumping on the toilet. I ended up pumping in my car and taking a longer unpaid break. It’s not as simplistic as everyone makes it sound. If you make issues you can lose your job.

amother

↑ Cherry ↓

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 11:30 pm

amother Brown wrote:

It is as simple as we make it sound. They legally have to provide a place for you to pump for up to a year, and they cannot make you take unpaid breaks to pump. And no, you cannot lose your job for filing a complaint with the state, because that is super illegal and you can easily sue them for wrongful termination, and either get your job back with lots of protections or get lots of money from them (or both)

The only reason it’s not simple is because people are scared to stand up for themselves, and scared to speak out when they know something is being done against the law. The employers hope you feel that way and take advantage of it, but really you have the upper hand because you can make their life a living h-ll by just speaking out

amother

↑ Purple

Sun, Mar 10 2024, 11:32 pm

amother Brown wrote:

Before everyone starts panicking that frum schools don't care about anything, when I worked in a boys yeshiva, my pumping space was taken one day and I only had a short break so I ran to the principal who was in middle of talking to a few rebbeim and he stopped and helped me find a new space so I could maximize my time and have privacy. Not all yeshivas are the same

amother

↑ OP ↓

Mon, Mar 11 2024, 10:38 am

amother Cherry wrote:

I actually have to pump during a session so I wont be getting paid during that time. Im going to ask my agencys HR rep if she can work something out with yeshiva

amother

↑ OP

Mon, Mar 11 2024, 10:38 am

amother Purple wrote:

No one implied other yeshivas dont provide a pumping room. I am happy you have one

amother

↑ Cherry ↓

Mon, Mar 11 2024, 10:49 am

amother OP wrote:

I actually have to pump during a session so I wont be getting paid during that time. Im going to ask my agencys HR rep if she can work something out with yeshiva

If your agency employs 50 or more people, you are covered under the pump act the same way you are covered under the FMLA act. Part of those rights are not losing wages due to pumping sessions, so legally they’d still have to pay you for that time. If the school pays the agency, and the agency pays you, then the agency still has to pay you for that time even though the school does not have to pay them for that time. The obligations are all on the agency, and it’s their job to figure it out with or without the yeahivas help

It’s really important to know what rights you have, and to stand up for them