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 Tue, Oct 03 2023, 11:34 pm
| amother Camellia wrote: | Does music / nigunim have a big role in Satmar?
Is it common for people to become Satmar or only if you're born to Satmar patients?
Can you recognize Satmar men or women or kids among other chassidim?
You mentioned that conformity is a value but you also said your family is a little different. How does that work for you?
Aside from bikur Cholim, what chesed organizations were started by Satmar?
Is marriage among relatives (e.g. first cousins) common?
Do you know people who have small families by choice?
In what cities or countries do Satmar communities exist? Would you ever consider living outside of a Satmar community? |
There are certain niggunim that are uniquely satmar such as the hakafa niggun but it does not play as large a role as in other chassidusen.
Some people choose to become Satmar but not in very large numbers.
Conformity is a value but not for completely across the board. Everyone finds a space to be unique, just like everyone else. My family is not super weird, just unique within the confines of normal.
Hatzolah, Chaveirim, chavivim, shomrim, RCCS, there are for sure more that I can't think of right now.
Some people marry relatives, I don't think 1st cousins but I've heard of 2nd cousins, not super common though.
Satmar dayanim give heterim for BC pretty easily and many people space their families and yes, some are choosing to have smaller families. Many yentas just assume SIF anyway.
There are Satmar communities all over the world, NY, NJ, Indiana, Arizona, in the US. Montreal in CA. Stamford Hill in London, many cities in Israel, in Melbourne Australia and there might be some that I'm missing .
I would live anywhere with a chassidish community since I want a chassidish education for my kids. We're not particular to Satmar. We can teach our unique views and minhagim at home.
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amother
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Tue, Oct 03 2023, 11:43 pm
| amother OP wrote: | There are certain niggunim that are uniquely satmar such as the hakafa niggun but it does not play as large a role as in other chassidusen.
Some people choose to become Satmar but not in very large numbers.
Conformity is a value but not for completely across the board. Everyone finds a space to be unique, just like everyone else. My family is not super weird, just unique within the confines of normal.
Hatzolah, Chaveirim, chavivim, shomrim, RCCS, there are for sure more that I can't think of right now.
Some people marry relatives, I don't think 1st cousins but I've heard of 2nd cousins, not super common though.
Satmar dayanim give heterim for BC pretty easily and many people space their families and yes, some are choosing to have smaller families. Many yentas just assume SIF anyway.
There are Satmar communities all over the world, NY, NJ, Indiana, Arizona, in the US. Montreal in CA. Stamford Hill in London, many cities in Israel, in Melbourne Australia and there might be some that I'm missing .
I would live anywhere with a chassidish community since I want a chassidish education for my kids. We're not particular to Satmar. We can teach our unique views and minhagim at home. |
Are your kids in the satmar school system?
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 12:54 am
Some of my kids are, some needed a higher academic level than the Satmar system could provide and are in other mosdos.
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 12:57 am
| cb0 wrote: | | How does this work in regards to tznius? What's the most/furthest someone can be on the liberal/modern side of tznius and still be okay/acceptable? |
Elbows, knees, collarbones are super important. Wigs not more than an inch or 2 past the shoulders, no black tights (the absolute horror), I'm not quite sure how far would be too far though.
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 12:59 am
| amother Acacia wrote: | how are your chumash textual skills? mefarshim skills?
if you recently purchased some nice clothing online can you post links?? I have such a hard time online shopping |
My chumash skills are nonexistent but I am learning to be able to help my kids with their homework.
Didn't really shop online this season, but I love dress blank. They are reasonably priced and have such great pieces.
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:02 am
| amother Valerian wrote: | | How do you feel about shaving your head? Do you enjoy it? (I read in one of these replies you shave your head) |
I absolutely hate it and feel ugly. I know that some people enjoy the feeling of comfort and the ease of showering and getting dressed/keeping hair covered. I recently shaved for the first time in many years after being told to do so by a mekubal in hopes of a major yeshua
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:09 am
chaveirim was started by my cousin in monsey who is a viznitz yingerman. Just saying.
Satmar bikur cholim is famous but satmar can't take credit for every chesed organization out there.
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:13 am
| amother Honeydew wrote: | chaveirim was started by my cousin in monsey who is a viznitz yingerman. Just saying.
Satmar bikur cholim is famous but satmar can't take credit for every chesed organization out there. |
I hear ya, just repeating what I've been told. Thanks for correcting me.
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:14 am
| amother Brunette wrote: | lol I'm not remotely chassidish and I know what a fein shmeker is.
we use the term all the time |
I think even Modox people know what feinshmeker means. And probably some non Jews as well.
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:16 am
| amother OP wrote: | | Elbows, knees, collarbones are super important. Wigs not more than an inch or 2 past the shoulders, no black tights (the absolute horror), I'm not quite sure how far would be too far though. |
How (or why) are black tights a tznius problem?
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:17 am
Mr.
It's not. It's a conformity issue. The school won't accept your kids if you wear black tights because it's too modern
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:17 am
| amother OP wrote: | | I absolutely hate it and feel ugly. I know that some people enjoy the feeling of comfort and the ease of showering and getting dressed/keeping hair covered. I recently shaved for the first time in many years after being told to do so by a mekubal in hopes of a major yeshua |
May I ask which mekubel? I'm in the need of a yeshua..
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:18 am
| amother OP wrote: | | I recently shaved for the first time in many years |
Is shaving only optional (not mandatory) in Satmar?
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:18 am
| amother Burgundy wrote: | | I think even Modox people know what feinshmeker means. And probably some non Jews as well. |
To the best of my understanding it's used as a derogatory term akin to JAP, and I'm trying to figure out why someone would ask another person that
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:19 am
I can't remember the name at the moment, when I'll do I'll try to update
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:21 am
To some people it's equal to or more important than shmiras shabbos. I researched all sources given and none of them felt like truth to me so I stopped. I made sure all hair was covered at all times in public.
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:24 am
| amother OP wrote: |
It's not. It's a conformity issue. The school won't accept your kids if you wear black tights because it's too modern |
Modern, really? In the Alte Heim no women wore black tights? Everyone used to only wear beige?
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:25 am
| amother OP wrote: | | To the best of my understanding it's used as a derogatory term akin to JAP, and I'm trying to figure out why someone would ask another person that |
I very much disagree.
Theres so many fashion and style wannabes I know, who would be complimented if they were considered feinshmekers.
Its the opposite of nebby, and is meant to describe peoples taste in furniture and decorating as well.
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:26 am
| amother OP wrote: | | To some people it's equal to or more important than shmiras shabbos. I researched all sources given and none of them felt like truth to me so I stopped. I made sure all hair was covered at all times in public. |
What percentage of, or how common is it for, married Satmar women to not shave?
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amother
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Wed, Oct 04 2023, 1:28 am
| amother Firebrick wrote: | | What percentage of, or how common is it for, married Satmar women to not shave? |
Following.
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