I got the covid vaccine AMA

↑ Ema of 5 ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 4:46 pm

amother Mint wrote:

You can honestly say like many of us, that AT THE TIME, WITH THE INFOMATION YOU HAD THEN, you made the right decision.

But almost 3 years passed since. We have so much more accurate information now, so it bears a re-discussion.

We know now that the vaccines do not prevent covid.
We know much of it was political.
We know paper masks dont work and ivermectin does
We know that the vaccines may cause blood clots and myarcarditis

So the question is, with the information you have NOW, would you get the vaccine again?

I am humble enough to say that the vaccines I recommended for my family members were a big mistake. I learned from it. Did you?

But that’s not what OPs ama was about.

amother

↑ Mint ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 4:51 pm

Ema of 5 wrote:

But that’s not what OPs ama was about.

How is it not a legitimate question, if she would give the vaccine again having all this new information, 3 years later?

↑ Ema of 5 ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 4:54 pm

amother Mint wrote:

How is it not a legitimate question, if she would give the vaccine again having all this new information, 3 years later?

I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to get OP to say she wouldn’t do it again, not asking if she would.

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 4:57 pm

amother White wrote:

I wouldn't call any of this research - but if that works for you.

(so odd how on Ima the only authority or misauthority on COVID is the FDA)

You don't feel that having knowledge such as the ratio of deaths for people over 75 vs people under 18 is 1000/1 is helpful? Why not? Back in march 2020 we didn't know information.

Don't you use similar information to understand risk in everyday life?

amother

↑ Mint ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 4:58 pm

Ema of 5 wrote:

I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to get OP to say she wouldn’t do it again, not asking if she would.

Its not a gotcha question. Things changed in 3 years. Im just curious

amother

↑ Cadetblue

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:02 pm

fleetwood wrote:

I guess you don't recognize the quote

Basically,those who are Happy with their decisions go about their lives Happy in the knowledge that they've done the right thing. Those who are not confident in their views feel the need to constantly bring up how their view is correct..they do it to convince themselves.

I've never started a covid thread because I don't need convincing that I handled it properly. I don't need to convince people I'm right because I know I'm right.

The difference is that people who don't believe in the covid vaccine were forced to get it. And they still bring it up not because they don't agree with their decision but because they don't want something like that to happen again. (And I know you may say nobody was physically forced to take the vaccine. I couldn't afford to lose my job so I was forced)

amother

Cobalt ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:09 pm

amother Yellow wrote:

If you find out later on that the shot caused your children issues, would you still be so proud?
What are you proud of? That you were fooled into taking an experimental shot that had zero benefit for you and you have no idea what it will do to you and your children?
If the risks for complications were non existent - especially for children, why did you give it to them?

If you find out later that getting covid gave you or your kids lasting issues will you be proud that you didn’t do your part to avoid getting covid? Nobody knows for sure that the vax causes long term issues but it’s known that covid can cause long term issues. And sadly kids aren’t immune. Over 1000 kids died in the us, and many more needed transplants and other serious treatments bec of covid. More serious cases of myocarditis resulted from covid than from the vaccine. Sadly you obviously don’t work in pediatrics bec you would know kids aren’t immune. Yes it’s rare, but many kids died or are still suffering.

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:10 pm

Ema of 5 wrote:

OP, I just want to say I’m very sorry that you are being attacked (and of course, anonymously!) I don’t see anything wrong with your thread. I think people, especially here, just need everyone to agree with them, and can’t get it through their heads that people might make different choices. I don’t understand why this thread has become about debating the vaccine.

Are you serious? The op started an AMA about her getting the vaccine. AMA is ask me ANYTHING. Are you really surprised that this vaccine thread turned into a discussion about....vaccines?

I don't see anything wrong with the op either except that there's nothing interesting to discuss with her. She vaccinated because her doctor said so and didn't get side effects. Welcome to the club of millions of people.

If we're not discussing the merits of the vaccine then I don't get this thread. And as I said before it's not my place to tell the op when she is allowed to start an AMA. I just don't get the point of it if she's not willing or able to discuss the merits of the vaccine.

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:15 pm

amother Cobalt wrote:

Everything we do is about calculating risk. Around 1000 children have died of covid in the last 3 years. Did you know that around the same number of children die in car accidents EACH year. So anyone who allows their children in cars is taking on 3x bigger risk than the covid risk.

Yet we all allow our kids in cars for the same reason. And that is because we decide that the risk while there, is low enough that we won't let it interfere with daily life.

amother

↑ Cobalt

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:17 pm

amother Steel wrote:

I’m not saying we should let it interfere with day to day life, but we need to acknowledge the risk is there. And my kids wear seat belts. Aka we take precautions when possible. Bec 1000 dead kids isn’t nothing

↑ fleetwood ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:24 pm

amother Cobalt wrote:

Especially if your kid is one of the 1000.

↑ Ema of 5

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:31 pm

amother Steel wrote:

Actually yes I am surprised. Not that it turned into a vaccine discussion, but that people are pushing their thoughts and choices on the OP.

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:33 pm

amother Cobalt wrote:

I agree. So like with everything else (including allowing kids in cars) in life we weigh the risks vs benefits.

Do you send your kids to school during flu season? The data says there were 200 pediatric deaths 3 years ago from the flu. I have a feeling you weigh the risks and rewards and let the kids be kids. They go to school, play indoors at friends and eat in the pizza shop. Are you worried someone at the next table has the flu? Nope. You just ignore it and let them live.

And the data is very clear now. The younger a person is the less likely they are to be affected by covid. So the question is where to draw the line?

Would you personally vaccinate a 1 year old? I'm assuming you wouldn't. So at a certain age you would make the very same calculation and determine the benefits aren't worth the risk.

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:38 pm

fleetwood wrote:

Especially if your kid is one of the 1000.

Do you let your kids in cars? There were over 700 deaths in the US from children under 12 last year. Are you being reckless by allowing them to get into a car?

What about kidnappings? Did you know in NYC the kidnapping rate is around 1 in 3000? Do you ever let your kids out of site? https://crimegrade.org/kidnapping-new-york/

How do you differentiate your willingness to take on risk in these situations?

amother

↑ Steel ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:40 pm

Ema of 5 wrote:

Actually yes I am surprised. Not that it turned into a vaccine discussion, but that people are pushing their thoughts and choices on the OP.

So you were surprised that people were engaging their thoughts and choices with the person who started the thread and said to ask her anything. Think about it.

amother

↑ White ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:43 pm

amother Steel wrote:

What's the reward for not vaccinating?

↑ fleetwood ↓

Tue, Oct 03 2023, 5:44 pm

amother Steel wrote:

I didn't take the risk Bec I didn't have little kids. You missed my point. My point was its easy to say only 1000 died until it becomes your kid...

But if you want to go down this road...my kids wear seat belts,they aren't out of my sight when they are little,I take precautions. Same as those who vaxxed their kids...they took precautions to protect them...