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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 9:57 am
10% is expensive but I don’t want to make a chillul Hashem.
Is 5% enough or better 10%?
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:18 am
I tip 20%.
These people are shopping for me and they are driving to me using their own cars.
Why would I tip less than what I would tip a waiter who brings food to me at a restaurant or someone who does my nails?
Instacart workers earn almost nothing from instacart and rely on tips for their income.
Yes it is expensive but if you can't afford it shop for it yourself and don't exploit low paid workers.
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Mimosa
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:22 am
Nice that you can afford to tip 20%. It’s absolutely not necessary, and they choose to take these jobs. Tips are a bonus, not a must. You should tip something, I usually give a few dollars.
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Cerise
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:24 am
Tips for instacart are absolutely a must and if you can’t afford 20% don’t use them.
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:25 am
amother Mimosa wrote: | Nice that you can afford to tip 20%. It’s absolutely not necessary, and they choose to take these jobs. Tips are a bonus, not a must. You should tip something, I usually give a few dollars. |
Tips are NOT a bonus in the USA. It is a necessity to tip in certain circumstances because otherwise you are just a cheap selfish person and people will most definitely think that of you.
Do you think tips are a bonus for waiters or other services in which tips are part of the wage structure. If you can't "afford" to tip appropriately in a restaurant you can't afford to actually eat in the restaurant.
If you can't afford to tip so that the person has a living wage, don't use the services because you are exploiting workers.
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Snowflake
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:26 am
amother Cerise wrote: | Tips for instacart are absolutely a must and if you can’t afford 20% don’t use them. |
Hmm do you know something I don't? Are you a driver? Since when is 20% tip a must?
Just curious
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:28 am
amother Cerise wrote: | Tips for instacart are absolutely a must and if you can’t afford 20% don’t use them. |
Is this your opinion or the opinion of Instacart workers? Because I'd think they'd rather have a less well-paying job than no job. But maybe I'm wrong.
(I don't use Instacart at all because I find the markup in fees and tips so high. I keep getting free trials but never placing an order in the end after seeing the prices. Should workers thank me?)
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:30 am
amother Snowflake wrote: | Hmm do you know something I don't? Are you a driver? Since when is 20% tip a must?
Just curious |
I am not a driver but I use Instacart almost every week to have groceries delivered.
Since when is tipping between 15% and 20% a must for a waiter or a manicurist or a masseuse? It just is what is considered the appropriate amount in the USA for tips.
Some things are accepted as appropriate etiquette.
OP asked. A 5% tip would be considered to be very low.
I again state - think of what this person is doing for you and the time it takes for them to do the job well.
For better or worse, at least in the USA, most service people rely on tips to provide most of their income and to not tip appropriate is exploiting low paid workers.
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:33 am
amother Melon wrote: | Is this your opinion or the opinion of Instacart workers? Because I'd think they'd rather have a less well-paying job than no job. But maybe I'm wrong.
(I don't use Instacart at all because I find the markup in fees and tips so high. I keep getting free trials but never placing an order in the end after seeing the prices. Should workers thank me?) |
Again I use Instacart and I am not a shopper, driver nor do I work in any profession that relies on tips.
However, I tip appropriately based on standard etiquette because the cost of a service includes what the appropriate tip would be - I.e. if you go to a restaurant the cost of a meal is the cost of the food PLUS a tip of between 15% and 20%.
Do you agree regarding that? If so, why do you think that tipping Instacart shoppers is any different and that tipping is not part of their income.
How much do you think Instacart actually pays their shoppers to shop and deliver for you?
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:33 am
"Pay for both roles varies by city and region, but they make at least minimum wage.
Full-service shoppers have greater earning potential because of tips.
Some even double their pay."
https://www.ridester.com/how-m.....-pay/
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:41 am
The minimum allowed amount is 5% on the app. The next lowest is 10%.
At restaurants they automatically add 18%.
If Instacart demanded 20% they would make that clear on the app. There wouldn’t be options for less
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Bluebonnet
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:42 am
Does this apply to Shipt too? I pay $100 subscription yearly for the service.
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:44 am
amother OP wrote: | The minimum allowed amount is 5% on the app. The next lowest is 10%.
At restaurants they automatically add 18%.
If Instacart demanded 20% they would make that clear on the app. There wouldn’t be options for less |
The restaurants I go to don't automatically add 18% except for large parties.
And the norm in the USA is not to add tips automatically.
Perhaps you go to restaurants where the clientele is perceived to be cheap and so the only way to guarantee adequate tips is to force people to pay them automatically.
I say this quite literally because in some restaurants which have a lot of foreign people, they do need to have a different tipping policy because generally Europeans aren't used to the American protocol of tipping.
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:45 am
amother Periwinkle wrote: | The restaurants I go to don't automatically add 1&% except for large parties.
And the norm in the USA is not to add tips automatically.
Perhaps you go to restaurants where the clientele is perceived to be cheap and so the only way to guarantee adequate tips is to force people to pay them automatically.
I say this quite literally because in some restaurants which have a lot of foreign people, they do need to have a different tipping policy because generally Europeans aren't used to the American protocol of tipping. |
Kosher Restaurants in the NJ area do this n
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:45 am
amother Bluebonnet wrote: | Does this apply to Shipt too? I pay $100 subscription yearly for the service. |
Shipt drivers also rely on tips for their income just like all gig delivery workers.
Your annual fee gets you reduced or free delivery charges. This amount does NOT go to the actual delivery people but is kept by Shipt.
Instacart also has an annual fee option so that "delivery" over $35 is free and you are charged a reduced service fee.
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:46 am
amother Bluebonnet wrote: | Does this apply to Shipt too? I pay $100 subscription yearly for the service. |
And I pay the same for Instacart. You still need to tip something
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:47 am
amother OP wrote: | Kosher Restaurants in the NJ area do this n |
Not to be snarky but I think that says something about their clientele and how many people would NOT tip since it is completely not the normal protocol in every other restaurant in the USA including many kosher restaurants outside of Brooklyn.
Again just because tipping is theoretically optional doesn't mean that it isn't expected in most situations.
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:49 am
Instacart wages are about $13 per hour before tips, according to the source posted above. In-store shoppers get paid about the same but don't get tips. (Uber makes about $15/hour AFTER tips, for comparison.) Tips are nice and very appropriate but it's not like they are waiters getting paid $3/hour.
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amother
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Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:52 am
amother Melon wrote: | Instacart wages are about $13 per hour before tips, according to the source posted above. In-store shoppers get paid about the same but don't get tips. (Uber makes about $15/hour AFTER tips, for comparison.) Tips are nice and very appropriate but it's not like they are waiters getting paid $3/hour. |
That figure is not possible since there is no salary paid to Instacart workers so how could they make $13 per hour if they are only guaranteed $7 for shopping an order.
It is not possible to shop two orders and deliver them in one hour. Think about the time it takes to park; to get the items; to pay for the items; to load them in your car; to drive to the customer and then to unload the order AND then even if they immediately got a new batch they would have to drive to the store to start the process over again.
It is ONLY in a very few states that Instacart was forced to pay minimum wage for hours worked.
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