Please post your apology here, an opportunity

amother

OP ↓

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 1:45 pm

Someone bet me that this thread will get ZERO takers

To those who bullied, shamed, name called other imas and stood by this posted below mantra in order to stand up for what you believed wrongly was emes:

"The vaccine stops you from both getting covid and from giving it to others, if you don't get it you are a (fill in the blank)"

Some of you thought you were just standing up for emes, but now you see the other imas were. It's understandable to be passionate about such important things. But now that you know, please show you can be a big person and admit not just that they were right all along but take responsibility for your part in hurting others.

A couple of you stand out in my memory as being particularly brutal towards others.

You hurt other frum yidden who had scientists and doctors they believed had solid science and just knew it before you did.

Show here that we are a nation who has good values and lets make this right in time for elul.

Heart

amother

Hosta

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 1:51 pm

amother OP wrote:

This sounds like one of those passive-aggressive Facebook posts "only your REAL friends will forward this". Mad

DustyDiamonds

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 1:54 pm

Who cares?

Covid was a new disease. The vaccine was new.

The information was new.

Everyone was exceedingly stressed. Many lost their jobs. Many were stuck home with abusive family members 24/7. You never know what they had to go through.

We could find contradictory information about Covid on reputable websites, quotes from reputable people, all through the pandemic.

Everyone made the best choices they could with the information that seemed to be the truth at the time.

New information kept being reported. Sometimes the people we trusted backtracked on their views.

Everyone was trying to do what was best for their family and the people around them.

Everyone! Even if the folks whose reports and advice they followed was wrong.

Would you demand an apology from those who believed that time passed at a constant rate and mocked those who thought time was relative once Einstein published the theory of relativity????

imorethanamother

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:00 pm

Covid mutated and changed. The early waves killed a lot of people. My husband had a few rounds of it and he said the first one was the nightmare version.

A lot of extremely important Rabbaim got up to say that there were a lot of people who didn’t care about getting others sick, that wouldn’t follow rules, and many people died. Quite a few of my friends lost parents. My neighbor lost both her father and her mother within a few short weeks. She’s in her 40s.

I think that people who insisted on the adults getting the vaccine in the beginning protected themselves and others as best as they could. If more people thought about protecting others than themselves, I think Covid would be gone by now.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:10 pm

DustyDiamonds wrote:

No, only asking those specifically who took their opinion to the point of being extremely harsh to other people. Not everyone who thought so or said what they believed but were not mean about it.

You know who, the ones who said "you are a murderer" "rotzaiach" "blood is on your hands" "you are a delusional fool".

I think those who took it that far really hurt people irl by saying things like that. And if they come back to address it it will be meaningful to the ones who felt hurt by those comments they made.

amother

Emerald

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:18 pm

DustyDiamonds wrote:

I understand but there's no excuse to bash and hurt others because of it. I dont think OP is upset at those that acted with the info they had. It's more about those that were aggressive and bashed others viciously that need to apologize. Hurting others is wrong. No matter the reason

amother

Ballota ↓

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:20 pm

amother OP wrote:

What is the new news on coronavirus that prompted this post?

amother

Lemonchiffon ↓

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:26 pm

It’s fascinating.

Could ONE person who got the Covid vaccine, please stand up, and say “I regret taking the vaccine.” ??

No, you can’t!

Because to admit that you took the vaccine for no reason, and got zero benefit, and very potentially harmed yourself, is too painful.

So instead, let’s keep bashing the anti Covid vaccine people, because in our heart of hearts we know they are right, but it’s too painful to admit the truth. We also hate being the losers.

I get it.

amother

Clover

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:30 pm

amother Lemonchiffon wrote:

I got the vaccine, never got Covid, and as far as I can tell, I’m the same. So what’s the great confession I’m supposed to make here, again?

amother

Jade ↓

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:31 pm

amother Lemonchiffon wrote:

I got the vaccine, and I'm happy. Still haven't gotten covid, as far as I know. No side effects other than a slightly sore arm for maybe 24 hours. Had no issues with traveling to other countries as needed in the past year or worries about being allowed into places that required proof of vaccine. Totally worth it! I didn't lose out all, I only gained.

amother

Calendula

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:32 pm

Huh what are you all talking about? Nothing changed. The science and mainstream medicine still supports getting vaccines, along with most Rabbanim. Why would anyone on here who supported it earlier think differently because people who were vaccinated got colds?

Mamushka

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:33 pm

amother Emerald wrote:

I expect adults to be able to deal with 'insults' without waiting for apologies. It's childish. Peoplevoiced their opinion. Some in a nicer way than others. We choose how to read and understand things that were written here.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:34 pm

If you fight here it will for sure be closed, really no need to post unless you were one of the few who took it to the level of name calling and character assasination, I could easily put a thread for the other direction too. Even if you are right it is unwarranted, but I think its easier to see it is unwarranted if you were wrong.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Sun, Aug 21 2022, 2:36 pm

amother Calendula wrote:

No, not if you should take it or not. That was never mentioned. Please reread.