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↑ spelt

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 3:03 pm

simba wrote:

Clearly you are in the minority. Apologies for the harsh words.

Welcome to imamother. Seems you are new here.

I can handle it Smile

just feel like I didn't explain myself well enough. I have people in my own family who have done bad stuff and I am very sympathetic to people who make bad choices. I would be mortified though if it somehow became a cause celebre and had people making songs about me. I'm not saying SMR had control over this, but someone did.

↑ simba

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 3:04 pm

crust wrote:

Do you think MY was megilgul?

I would think she would do Teshuva in a new Gilgul..

smile12345

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 3:07 pm

nechama14 wrote:

I am not passing judgement. I just think that this is a sorry state of our generation that we have no busha anymore for our iniquities.

Why are you being stricter than G-d Himself? Motzei Yom Kippur is a yom tov because we have been cleaned from all our aveiros. There is a clear concept of teshuva and once one has been released, there is nothing wrong with rejoicing about the freedom. (Which he doesn't actually even have since his restitution obligation is so high.)

↑ mommy3b2c ↓

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 3:21 pm

nechama14 wrote:

I can handle it Smile

You seriously don’t get it. Nobody is celebrating his sins, they are celebrating the miracle of his release. He paid for his sins already. No one said he was innocent. They said he was punished harshly and they prayed for his release and now with his release we all celebrated with him like he’s our brother.

↑ mommy3b2c

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 3:27 pm

simba wrote:

And I resent that you came to a thread full of tears of joy and ahavas Yisroel and threw cold water on it.

As do I.

↑ Blessing1

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 3:28 pm

My daughters pre school class called the Rubashkin home to wish him well!! This is so cute!

keym

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 3:31 pm

mommy3b2c wrote:

This. We are celebrating our brothers good fortune.

↑ crust

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 4:03 pm

simba wrote:

I would think she would do Teshuva in a new Gilgul..

Not all gilgulim are zoche to tsuvah... LOL

↑ InnerMe

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 4:19 pm

crust wrote:

Do you think MY was megilgul?

You are seriously funny, crust!

Betcha MY regrets her shocker thread now. Poor timing. Should've gotten in her words on this and then announce her identity. Surely having some serious FOMO, oh, the fun she could've had here!

↑ penguin

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 5:06 pm

I think from what I read that there was no real bank fraud. What happened was a real technicality such as that the bank agrees to wait 60 days for repayment although there may be a law on the books that dictates 30 days, but absolutely no banks enforce it. Something along those lines.

And it worked perfectly fine, bank was happy, business was running with a line of credit, until judge who was also investigator got everything frozen on immigration charges that were dropped, business couldn't run and the debts couldn't be repaid.

I may not be remembering with precision but this was the basic idea.

Also please realize that if someone were out to get any one of us, there are so many unenforced laws on the books that almost anyone could be found guilty of something, as ehrlich as they do their best to be.

This is NOT about condoning fraud or anything like that.

↑ ra_mom

Thu, Dec 21 2017, 5:09 pm

Why are we getting back into the details of the case? We are finally b'achdus. Let's not go back to dredging it up. We know there are people on both sides of this. Why do we have to hash it out again? We'll end up with a fighting thread again.

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