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Wed, Dec 20 2017, 10:35 pm
Baruch Hashem. I just emailed the president through southernbubby's link. Not a Trump fan but this is amazing.
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Wed, Dec 20 2017, 10:39 pm
Does anyone know if Senator Schumer was involved?
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trixx
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Wed, Dec 20 2017, 10:46 pm
Mevater wrote: | Does anyone know if Senator Schumer was involved? |
Saw this on fb but also saw it as a fwd from someone who verified
Now that #Rubashkin is out , the following story can now be made public. Donald #Trump wanted to commute the sentence months ago an asked #Schumer and #Pelosi to write him a letter, so that it doesn’t become political. Pelosi did, but Schumer said he has to think about it. After being pushed again, Schumer said that the Chasidim do not vote Democrat and he will not write the letter.
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Wed, Dec 20 2017, 10:50 pm
southernbubby wrote: | My son was inside around an hour and a half ago and said that there was more action in 770 than on Simchas Torah. |
And while this is going on, they were dancing in BMG, The achdus is beautiful
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Chana Miriam S
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Wed, Dec 20 2017, 10:57 pm
southernbubby wrote: | My son was inside around an hour and a half ago and said that there was more action in 770 than on Simchas Torah. |
Amazing!
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 12:04 am
Wow!!!! This is unreal. It was so totally unexpected. It's soooooo wonderful and amazing. Truly a reason to say hallel and al hanissim!
על הנסים ועל הפרקן ועל הגבורות ועל התשועות ועל הנפלאות שעשית לאבותנו בימים ההם בזמן הזה
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 12:09 am
trixx wrote: | Saw this on fb but also saw it as a fwd from someone who verified
Now that #Rubashkin is out , the following story can now be made public. Donald #Trump wanted to commute the sentence months ago an asked #Schumer and #Pelosi to write him a letter, so that it doesn’t become political. Pelosi did, but Schumer said he has to think about it. After being pushed again, Schumer said that the Chasidim do not vote Democrat and he will not write the letter. |
Thats what I heard, and I wanted to confirm, because I didnt find anything about it on the internet. Shame on Shumer. Rubashkin's sentence was undeniably unjust.
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 1:07 am
So Happy!
BH!!!
wonderful for the family to have him home!
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R3D
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 1:53 am
dh on the way home from crown heights. Amazing what was going on there. DH shook hands with Rubashkin.
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 6:02 am
trixx wrote: | Saw this on fb but also saw it as a fwd from someone who verified
Now that #Rubashkin is out , the following story can now be made public. Donald #Trump wanted to commute the sentence months ago an asked #Schumer and #Pelosi to write him a letter, so that it doesn’t become political. Pelosi did, but Schumer said he has to think about it. After being pushed again, Schumer said that the Chasidim do not vote Democrat and he will not write the letter. |
Did the forwarder say how they verified it?
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PinkFridge
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 8:37 am
imasoftov wrote: | Did the forwarder say how they verified it? |
I liked your post because before posting lashon hara, I would personally make it clear it was true and l'toeles.
http://matzav.com/breaking-sha.....ison/
Schumer's name wasn't on this. Evidently it happened without him. It might be one of his life's regrets, and I hope that if, given other opportunities, he will seize them, energetically and joyfully.
(Note: there may have been understandable reasons not to sign on to this or other initiatives, even if I disagreed. To punish constituents is not one of them. As of yet, we have no idea if this is true and frankly, since I'm not a NY voter, I don't need or want to know.)
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imasoftov
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 10:55 am
PinkFridge wrote: | I liked your post because before posting lashon hara, I would personally make it clear it was true and l'toeles.
http://matzav.com/breaking-sha.....ison/
Schumer's name wasn't on this. Evidently it happened without him. It might be one of his life's regrets, and I hope that if, given other opportunities, he will seize them, energetically and joyfully.
(Note: there may have been understandable reasons not to sign on to this or other initiatives, even if I disagreed. To punish constituents is not one of them. As of yet, we have no idea if this is true and frankly, since I'm not a NY voter, I don't need or want to know.) |
Well now that you mention it, I am a NY absentee voter. They probably don't ever need to open the absentee ballots there, but I send them in anyway.
I searched and did find a few nearly identical copies of the message on FB earlier today but no one mentioned verification.
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glamourmom
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 11:08 am
I still can't stop crying from joy every time I think of it. I share the sentiment of so many across the world. this is a fraction of the joy that we'll feel with the coming of Moshiach but this gives a pretty great picture of how that will feel.
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 1:11 pm
boysrus wrote: | https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1431335/watch-rubashkin-bentches-gomel-by-kriyas-hatorah-in-770.html
this video made me cry with such emotion!
watch it! its just 40 seconds
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I liked the one if him greeting his mother. It's beautiful and he gives a short vort on Chanukah.
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 1:19 pm
is there something I'm not getting? I understand that the sentence was overly harsh, but why is this man being treated like a hero? he still was found guilty on multiple charges. if I were him I would be embarrassed and want to be a low-key as possible. what kind of example is this for young children? this whole thing rubs me the wrong way. what am I missing?
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pecan
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 1:28 pm
Yes, there is something you are not getting. Basically, government cracked down on the immigration rules, which he was found innocent for, and this caused Rubashkin to try to save the company and pay his workers. He did this by taking loans from the bank, and the crimes you are talking about involve that. It was a small misdemeanor that was blown up totally out of proportion, resulting in your flesh and blood sitting in prison. Not to mention the blatant anti semitism. Many lawyers, government officials reviewed the case and agreed that the whole thing was ridiculous. So yes, you should be rejoicing too!
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 1:29 pm
nechama14 wrote: | is there something I'm not getting? I understand that the sentence was overly harsh, but why is this man being treated like a hero? he still was found guilty on multiple charges. if I were him I would be embarrassed and want to be a low-key as possible. what kind of example is this for young children? this whole thing rubs me the wrong way. what am I missing? |
He had been a big baal tzedukah and had provided many yidden with jobs. While in prison he taught Torah, both to inmates and sent out emailed classes that were used in classrooms. I had corresponded with him by email and also spoke to his wife Leah, when one of my grandsons was diagnosed with autism. While he was in the meat business, he tried to provide a good product at an affordable price. Having kosher meat be affordable may have been a make or break for Jews on the fence about keeping kosher. While he was awaiting trial and imprisonment, he reached out to non-frum Jews in South Dakota and became sort of a "shaliach" there. He was mistreated terribly in the first jail that he was in, for trying to observe mitzvahs.
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Thu, Dec 21 2017, 1:30 pm
nechama14 wrote: | is there something I'm not getting? I understand that the sentence was overly harsh, but why is this man being treated like a hero? he still was found guilty on multiple charges. if I were him I would be embarrassed and want to be a low-key as possible. what kind of example is this for young children? this whole thing rubs me the wrong way. what am I missing? |
By Rabbi Mendel Kaplan
To the sadly misguided fellow Jew who just PM’d [private messaged] me to share his “profound disgust” at my sharing Facebook posts expressing “delight” in Shalom Mordechai Rubashkin’s wondrous release in the final (and most powerful) miraculous moments of Chanukah:
I am choosing to post a response publicly in the event that there are others thinking and feeling like you at this moment:
Nobody I know believes that “bank fraud is a Mitzvah,” and frankly your making blanket statements about “Hareidi Jews commonly justifying white collar crime by cloaking it in a Talit of frum-piety” is anti-Semitic (yes, a Jew who passes judgement on a wide swath of other Jews who might act or dress differently then them is also guilty of the same abhorrent form of racism).
To be sure, Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin is not a saint and has definitely made some serious mistakes along the way. He is not alone. We have all made mistakes in life. And yes, it’s also true that some people’s mistakes might be bigger than others.
Yet your gleeful willingness to brand him a nefarious convict, stands in sharp and shameful contrast to your self-identifying as “accepting and non-judgemental.”
To be so harshly critical of his errors, yet so accepting of others’ behaviour smacks of incredible (and may I add egregious) hypocrisy.
I wholeheartedly agree that none should be “above the law.” Defrauding financial institutions, cheating on income tax or illegally obtaining government funding is a crime. It is fair to say that those who break the law, deserve to be dealt with accordingly.
HOWEVER, a 27 year sentence for bank fraud cannot be justified. That was nothing less than a Dryfuseque display of horribly outrageous anti-Semitism in 21st century America.
The Frum community did not “broadcast tacit approval of criminality” it expressed a beautiful wave of solidarity with a Yid who was unjustly and harshly mistreated for the simple reason that he was (visibly) Jewish.
Quite frankly, to me it was painful (and in fact shocking) that the rest of Am Yisrael didn’t care and instead chose to conveniently look away for the past 8 long years…
The tsunami of joy that you are now seeing flood the web and social media is a remarkable outpouring of Torah-true solidarity and the sincere brotherhood and kinship that should always be felt amongst ALL Yidden.
You are presently witnessing the truest meaning of Ahavat Yisrael, as thousands delight and rejoice in the redemption of a fellow Yid who was unfairly treated just because he was Jewish.
Be inspired by it. Or at least wish you could feel it.
I am not ashamed to admit that I cried upon hearing the news. Not because Shalom Mordechai is my friend. I don’t really know him personally. But because, along with tens-of-thousands of others, I am privileged to feel a familial bond with a fellow Yid.
All I can say is that I wish you could feel it too…
If he was your terrestrial brother, you’d innately overlook his shortcomings and be happy for him tonight… that is the essential meaning of the Mitzvah of Ahavat Yisrael. Self-love blinds us to our own faults, love of our fellow should blind us to their faults as well!!
I pray that Hashem opens your heart and fills it with love… and may the beautiful Achdut Yisrael now sweeping the globe serve as the final catalyst for the arrival of our long awaited redemption through the righteous Moshiach, speedily and in our days, amen!
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