How much do you think about North Korea?

↑ southernbubby ↓

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:33 am

Moonlight wrote:

I personally am quite terrified. I think US should destroy NK right now. We have to protect the US before we protect SK. I am scared for my children. Terrified.

Yaakov had a 3 pronged approach to Eisav:

1)gifts (diplomacy)
2)prayer (what we always need to do)
3)getting ready for war

↑ SixOfWands ↓

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:47 am

Moonlight wrote:

I personally am quite terrified. I think US should destroy NK right now. We have to protect the US before we protect SK. I am scared for my children. Terrified.

Remember, what you propose is killing more than 25 million people in North Korea, most of whom have done nothing other than have the misfortune to be born in North Korea. Not to mention the millions who would be killed in South Korea, which would inevitably be attacked by North Korea.

And how do you propose that the US do such a thing, anyway. Nuclear attack? That would make a big swath of the world unsafe. And it would provoke a reaction from North Korea's allies.

Besides, how does that make us better than them, except that we survive? Maybe

I'm scared for my kids, too. They're all in their teens. I don't want a war. I don't want them, or their friends, drafted, and dying. For what?

I wish I had the answers. I clearly don't. But I'm pretty sure that the answers isn't killing millions of people.

↑ southernbubby ↓

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:17 am

SixOfWands wrote:

But that being said, we must prepare for the possibility and I am not sure that we are prepared for that possibility.

FranticFrummie

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:25 am

I'm with LovesHashem on this one.

I live 6 kilometers south of the Lebanese border. If I stayed up all night worrying about that, I'd be an absolute wreck. The fact is, I'm far more likely to get hit by a taxi who is not paying attention at a crosswalk.

We all die exactly when Hashem wants us to die, and not a minute sooner or later.

WhatFor

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:53 am

sequoia wrote:

What allies?

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Not just North Korea's allies. What about the US's allies? What makes anybody think the rest of the world would support the murder of millions of innocent Koreans? Plus when the nuclear fallout starts to hit the environment and affect millions of others in the area.... Which US ally would stand behind the US if it did this?

↑ sequoia

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:58 am

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And you may have thought it tragic
Not to mention other adjec-
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↑ shoshanim999

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 12:05 pm

WhatFor wrote:

First of all the US has the ability to knock out NK nuclear site without killing millions of north koreans. When NK retaliates by firing into south korea, SK might respond by killing millions of north koreans. For the most part, SK will have all the blood on their hands.

↑ Fox

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 3:43 pm

The story is not North Korea; it's China. While China said they wouldn't support NK in the event of an unprovoked attack on the US, they are the ones propping up Kim Jung Un and keeping NK from starving to death -- as well as enabling them to purchase nuclear weapons components.

While we shouldn't entirely discount NK, I think it's simply a distraction from China's Belt and Road Initiative ("one belt, one road"). If NK can distract the West while China expands control over the South China Sea, the South Pacific, and the Indian Ocean -- we'll have far greater worries than NK lobbing missiles at us.

The smart cat doesn't chase the red dot. She pounces on the laser pointer.

Petra

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 5:58 pm

I think about it when I read the news snippets. I try to read them daily.

It would be difficult to poise enough troops in SK in the event that NK does something warranting declaration of war without provoking NK to act preemptively. There are US military bases in SK now but that isn't nearly enough personnel in case something happens now. NK would be murdering tons of SK citizens and the US troops. Our military is spread thin and actively operating all over the place at the cost of breaking equipment, planes and burned out troops, sailors and pilots. This is what I read in the news. And although it's not said as much, any war with NK would mean very strained relationship with China, if not war.

Perhaps this is how it all ends. One nutty person in the White House with a big ego and a nutty person in NK and they both go at it and take us all out with them!

↑ southernbubby

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 6:20 pm

Petra wrote:

G-d in Heaven have mercy!

↑ Laiya

Thu, Nov 30 2017, 9:08 pm

Fox wrote:

Mostly, China's interest has been regional stability; that's why it's been providing economic assistance to NK.

North Korea is seen as a buffer between China and US troops and interests stationed in South Korea.

And, if NK were to collapse, China would have to contend with a flood of refugees, as well as possible nuclear fallout.