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amother
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Thu, Apr 25 2024, 11:48 am
My daughters are 7 and 9 and they have checklists of what they need to say every day. 9 year old davening takes about 20-30 minutes. 7 year old at least 15-20. Yes they're singing most of it but they have no patience, and they're pretty studious, serious kids. I don't like pressuring them to daven. Should I just let them skip? I don't want them to lose the feeling for tefillah either but right now we're about a week into vacation and they're already burnt out, especially the 9 year old who is saying shmoneh esrei.
Looking for tips, advice....
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amother
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Thu, Apr 25 2024, 12:00 pm
Can you split it up? Daven until shmone esre earlier, take a break, play, and then do the rest
With Hallel, Sefira, and Musaaf if that's included it should divide it up into manageable chunks
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amother
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Thu, Apr 25 2024, 12:26 pm
That's an idea. Thanks. I'll ask them. I think I'm general is just too much for them. But maybe I'm projecting my own feelings onto them
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Thu, Apr 25 2024, 12:35 pm
I tell my kids that tefila is OUR opportunity to connect to HKBH, He doesn’t need our tefilos - WE need them. I also tell them that until they understand what they are saying it can be hard to say so many words. I make a list of the most important tefilos from each section and tell them to try to say these. I tell them that if they are up to it, they can for sure daven more but that I’ll be able to sign their checklists if the minimum is said. I really keep it to a minimum. What I put on their list is individualized to each child’s age, temperament…. Davening is an avoda - it takes work and each person is in their own place and has their own abilities. I try to use the chart as a framework but make it more doable for them.
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amother
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Thu, Apr 25 2024, 12:54 pm
I don’t follow their lists. I don’t even look at them.
I try to remind them every day to daven and in my home at that age it means Brachos and shema. (I don’t make the 9 year old say shemone esrei)
If they want to fill in their charts it’s on them.
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amother
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Thu, Apr 25 2024, 3:00 pm
amother OP wrote: | That's an idea. Thanks. I'll ask them. I think I'm general is just too much for them. But maybe I'm projecting my own feelings onto them |
Has it been hard for them to keep up or does it look to you like a large amount?
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amother
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Thu, Apr 25 2024, 3:04 pm
My kids are 8 and 12 I make them davenport brachos right after breakfast they usually like to play after that then we take a break a little before the men come home to finish davening and set the table. Since the two go together it's not forgotten. Hallel is usually said then too but I told my older one she can say it anytime in the afternoon before mincha. Once or twice a year I tell my kids to skip something. This happened on the second day of pesach they woke up at 1:00 same time my husband was ready for kiddush. I made my husband wait for them to daven everything besides besides hallel.. but I told them both to davenport brachos then just varuch shamor, ashrei, yishtabach then Simona esrai
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