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amother
Lilac
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 1:37 pm
amother Forestgreen wrote: | Not exactly. Different places have different amenities. Some seminaries offer in shabbos if girls don't have a place to go, some don't. Some offer 3 meals a day, some only 2. It's not necessarily connected to their rules about uniforms or allowed outings.
This is why it’s important to do research and choose a school that will best fit your needs and expectations. If you want a seminary with a super involved eim habayis, you need to go with a sem that offers that. Most do not. |
Checking in daily on a girl with fever isn't called "super involved", but a normal, expected thing. Unfortunately, not all common sense things are so common.
I'm not sure what you were trying to say in your first paragraph and how it's connected to my post. We all know different seminaries have different set ups about meals and shabbosim. That has nothing to do with responsible and caring staff.
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amother
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 1:52 pm
What is she going to do when she gets married next year?!!!!
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amother
Lilac
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 1:55 pm
amother Begonia wrote: | What is she going to do when she gets married next year?!!!! |
What a stupid question. She might get married in a year, therefore, seminary staff shouldn't be paying her any attention now when she has fever and they charge $27K?
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ora_43
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 2:08 pm
amother Begonia wrote: | What is she going to do when she gets married next year?!!!! |
She'll have a husband who can leave water, snacks, and medicine near the bed and call her during the day? If she's sick enough to be bedridden.
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amother
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 2:08 pm
amother Lilac wrote: | Checking in daily on a girl with fever isn't called "super involved", but a normal, expected thing. Unfortunately, not all common sense things are so common.
I'm not sure what you were trying to say in your first paragraph and how it's connected to my post. We all know different seminaries have different set ups about meals and shabbosim. That has nothing to do with responsible and caring staff. |
Sure, checking in once or twice a day. Not being there 24/7 and bringing bowls of soup and snacks throughput the day. That's not realistic unless the sem has a 1950s style infirmary (and none do, to my knowledge). Op didn't say her daughter had no food, water, meds or people checking in on her at all.
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amother
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 2:11 pm
ora_43 wrote: | She'll have a husband who can leave water, snacks, and medicine near the bed and call her during the day? If she's sick enough to be bedridden. |
Op never said she was completely on her own, just that she didn't have someone coming in throughout the day bringing soup and snacks
Presumably if her daughter is married next year, her husband won't be able to stay home from work or yeshiva to do that, either, unless there's an extremely extenuating circumstance.
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dena613
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 2:15 pm
We had a similar thread last year. Maybe someone can link.
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amother
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 2:20 pm
When I was in old Gateshead sem, we had sick rooms & Mrs Roberts, house mother, would check on us there.
Yes, she brought me soup & crackers when I was sick enough to be unable to get up without passing out.
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amother
Jean
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 2:57 pm
amother Forestgreen wrote: | Op never said she was completely on her own, just that she didn't have someone coming in throughout the day bringing soup and snacks
Presumably if her daughter is married next year, her husband won't be able to stay home from work or yeshiva to do that, either, unless there's an extremely extenuating circumstance. |
You don't see a difference in being in a seminary which you pay Mega money for, and being married?
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amother
Navy
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 3:08 pm
amother Begonia wrote: | What is she going to do when she gets married next year?!!!! |
Bh DH & me care for each others when sick. We help each others out & check in throughout the day.
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amother
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 3:50 pm
amother Oldlace wrote: | When I was in old Gateshead sem, we had sick rooms & Mrs Roberts, house mother, would check on us there.
Yes, she brought me soup & crackers when I was sick enough to be unable to get up without passing out. |
But girls start there age 15/16, and Gateshead has very little other resources so if you need a doctor then Mrs Roberts has to call them. Much younger demographic. And Mrs Roberts is super unique and special. You don't get someone like her in any random sem, not even in Gateshead new.
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amother
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 3:55 pm
amother OP wrote: | I don't understand with all the money we pay there is nothing like a room for sick girls and madricha who gets the soup even from the freezer and a little TLC |
My daughter has BH recovered, but she had medical situation a few months ago. There were adults helping her navigate clinics, hospital visits, and the aim bayit actually had her sleep in her house so she could get proper rest.
I don’t think they need to get involved in that level for a fever, but for something more than that, they should.
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shabbatiscoming
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 3:58 pm
dena613 wrote: | We had a similar thread last year. Maybe someone can link. | eerily similar.
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amother
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 4:16 pm
amother Jean wrote: | You don't see a difference in being in a seminary which you pay Mega money for, and being married? |
College/college dorm is just as much $ if not more, and no, they don't offer bedside check ins at all. No house mothers. Just an RA who is probably less involved than a madricha.
It's not about how much you are paying, anyway, it's the set up. Seminary dorms do not have infirmaries or someone who is going to sit at her bedside and be available 24/7.
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amother
Lilac
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 4:18 pm
amother Forestgreen wrote: | Sure, checking in once or twice a day. Not being there 24/7 and bringing bowls of soup and snacks throughput the day. That's not realistic unless the sem has a 1950s style infirmary (and none do, to my knowledge). Op didn't say her daughter had no food, water, meds or people checking in on her at all. |
OP didn't say she expected 24/7 care, either. In fact, her very first sentence is "it seems there's no procedure or help at all". Between that and her next sentence about chicken soup and healthy snacks, your guess about her expectations is as good as mine.
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amother
Skyblue
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 4:23 pm
OP,
I agree with you.
Not everyone has friends that are so attentive. Or roommates they are close with.
I think eim bayit/madricha should be involved when a sem girl is sick.
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amother
Bluebell
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 4:47 pm
Could be you have to have a child in a dorm far away, sick in bed and can't budge, can't get food or water or medicine, till you understand that someone checking in on absent students is a necessity. A school's responsibility is the welfare of the students. For 30k they can make it happen.
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amother
Arcticblue
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 4:56 pm
My son had a medical emergency and the Yeshiva was very involved, a Rebbe went and stayed with him at the hospital all day, checked up on him constantly etc.
Shame on the seminary if there isn’t proper concern for a girl that is sick. They are responsible for them for the year.
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amother
Charcoal
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Sun, Mar 17 2024, 5:04 pm
Colleges with dorms usually have a health center on campus. When I was a freshman my RA sent me there when I was sick, to get tested. Turned out I had mono. I stayed in a room in the health center for two weeks and a nurse checked on me regularly. My friends brought me food from the dining hall.
But this was a college of $6,000 students. A seminary of around 100 girls doesn’t need an infirmary.
Everyone has roommates, the roommates should let the eim bayit know if something’s really wrong and she’ll come check. But honestly a fever isn’t a big deal unless it’s really high or there’s other stuff going on. The girl’s roommates should be bringing her food and checking on her just the way you would for family.
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