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Family members not connecting with the day



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amother
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Post Today at 12:34 am
I was surrounded by family members who just barely went to shofar, kept talking how the day is so long and boring and how can they occupy themselves (maybe a puzzle etc.)…
I kept thinking how the whole point of the day was just going over everyone’s head.

We’re not referring to those who were busy with childcare, house work etc.

How can one connect better with Rosh Hashana and the concept of the day? And should I have said anything?
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amother
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Post Today at 12:36 am
No, you shouldn't have said anything. Everyone has their own way of going about the day.
Yes, the day is long & boring & not everyone is able to daven all day long.
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amother
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Post Today at 12:42 am
amother Fuchsia wrote:
No, you shouldn't have said anything. Everyone has their own way of going about the day.
Yes, the day is long & boring & not everyone is able to daven all day long.


No one needs to daven all day long.
It would be nice if everyone is in a healthy enough place to daven something.
Or read something inspiring.
Or have a discussion…

I do believe an adult that can’t bring themselves to daven at all on Rosh Hashana is not in a good place.
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amother
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Post Today at 12:43 am
amother OP wrote:
No one needs to daven all day long.
It would be nice if everyone is in a healthy enough place to daven something.
Or read something inspiring.
Or have a discussion…

I do believe an adult that can’t bring themselves to daven at all on Rosh Hashana is not in a good place.

All this is none of your business. Just take care of yourself, you do the right thing, and don't worry about how others may or may not connect with the day. It doesn't effect you & it's not your concern.
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dena613  




 
 
    
 

Post Today at 12:44 am
Right. They are not in a good place.

If they are your spouse or child, that's really hard. What would make them happier and more connected? Do they need therapy?

If they are not your spouse or child, daven for them and stay out if it.
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amother
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Post Today at 12:46 am
amother Fuchsia wrote:
All this is none of your business. Just take care of yourself, you do the right thing, and don't worry about how others may or may not connect with the day. It doesn't affect you & it's not your concern.

Then whose concern is it?
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amother
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Post Today at 12:48 am
dena613 wrote:
Right. They are not in a good place.

If they are your spouse or child, that's really hard. What would make them happier and more connected? Do they need therapy?

If they are not your spouse or child, daven for them and stay out if it.


So do I speak about it? I basically tried to daven for them….
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  dena613




 
 
    
 

Post Today at 12:51 am
amother OP wrote:
So do I speak about it? I basically tried to daven for them….


Are you talking about a man or a woman?
Because men have a bigger chiyuv to daven.

I wouldn't talk to them about Rosh hashana and ruchniyus.
See what's upsetting them in their life, or bugging them. General schmoozing conversation
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amother
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Post Today at 12:59 am
amother OP wrote:
Then whose concern is it?


Their own.
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amother
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Post Today at 1:10 am
I have similar so I do what I have to do it's there choice in life yes I had a few tears in private but they are mature enough to choose what they want sending hugs from someone who understands
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amother
Amaryllis


 

Post Today at 2:03 am
Model that which you feel and connect to
Being grateful you do
Daven for them
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amother
Babypink


 

Post Today at 2:57 am
amother Fuchsia wrote:

Yes, the day is long & boring.


I’m sorry, but how old are you? This sounds like an 11 year old who doesn’t want to be in shul, not like a mature adult whose household is depending on her tefillos.
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amother
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Post Today at 3:02 am
amother Babypink wrote:
I’m sorry, but how old are you? This sounds like an 11 year old who doesn’t want to be in shul, not like a mature adult whose household is depending on her tefillos.

Well yikes. That’s super nasty of you to say. It’s very hard for me to daven and connect through words that don’t mean anything to me and yes I get bored and was not looking forward to yuntif. Does that make me a bad person? That I want my family to fail? No it makes me human and you sound really judgmental
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