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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 12:30 pm
Any Dunkin’ Donuts Cholov Yisroel kosher? In NY, or Lakewood, or Monsey? I don’t eat OUD anymore, but I’m pregnant now and craving an egg and cheese croissant and a hot chocolate 😋
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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 12:38 pm
The products aren't made from scratch in store. The bakedngoods are all pre-made. Impossible to get it cy.
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singleagain
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 2:01 pm
Some of them have cy milk but I think that's it. I believe the items are not cy
You can however ask your Rabbi if you can have it anyways. I remember once reading on this website a woman who got a leniency during pregnancy when she had a really serious craving.
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Molly Weasley
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 3:42 pm
singleagain wrote: | Some of them have cy milk but I think that's it. I believe the items are not cy
You can however ask your Rabbi if you can have it anyways. I remember once reading on this website a woman who got a leniency during pregnancy when she had a really serious craving. |
Of course there are leniencies, Rav Moshe is an obvious one. However, it's not good for the child's spiritual growth.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 3:53 pm
Molly Weasley wrote: | Of course there are leniencies, Rav Moshe is an obvious one. However, it's not good for the child's spiritual growth. |
Rav Moshe's ruling was for chalav stam in general and it's not a leniency. The leniency she is referring to is for pregnant women. It's considered a sakana for women to not have what they are craving, so much so that in some situations even actual treif is allowed.
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Molly Weasley
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 4:01 pm
amother Fern wrote: | Rav Moshe's ruling was for chalav stam in general and it's not a leniency. The leniency she is referring to is for pregnant women. It's considered a sakana for women to not have what they are craving, so much so that in some situations even actual treif is allowed. |
It most definitely is a leniency, he himself never used it.
If the situation is really dire and it's a sakana, then as you said, she can eat non kosher food as well. But there's a long way between a craving and a sakana
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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 4:02 pm
Molly Weasley wrote: | It most definitely is a leniency, he himself never used it.
If the situation is really dire and it's a sakana, then as you said, she can eat non kosher food as well. But there's a long way between a craving and a sakana |
The craving itself is considered a sakanah for a pregnant woman.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 4:14 pm
amother Fern wrote: | The craving itself is considered a sakanah for a pregnant woman. |
Do you have a source for this?!
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Molly Weasley
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 4:37 pm
amother Fern wrote: | The craving itself is considered a sakanah for a pregnant woman. |
Really? Do you seriously believe that every food craving is a threat to life if not satisfied?
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Molly Weasley
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 4:41 pm
singleagain wrote: | https://www.imamother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=420109#5464959
Thread from 2021 |
Practically speaking, unless there's a real threat to life, she's not given non kosher food.
https://www.yeshiva.co/ask/1217
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singleagain
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 4:42 pm
But you're not the one who makes this judgment. The rabbis are and the rabbis have the gemara on which to pasken
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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 4:46 pm
Molly Weasley wrote: | Really? Do you seriously believe that every food craving is a threat to life if not satisfied? |
It depends on the level of craving, but it's from gemara, and I think shulchan aruch and mishnah brurah. I'm certainly not basing this on my own thoughts.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 4:48 pm
I think you're misunderstanding. The craving itself is considered the sakanah.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 4:50 pm
amother OP wrote: | Any Dunkin’ Donuts Cholov Yisroel kosher? In NY, or Lakewood, or Monsey? I don’t eat OUD anymore, but I’m pregnant now and craving an egg and cheese croissant and a hot chocolate 😋 |
Have you tried Patis and Cookie Corner?
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Hashem_Yaazor
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 5:26 pm
BTW there's an additional heter I've heard for Dunkin Donuts due to powdered milk. I don't know which items they make with that ingredient vs regular milk.
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Molly Weasley
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 5:28 pm
Hashem_Yaazor wrote: | BTW there's an additional heter I've heard for Dunkin Donuts due to powdered milk. I don't know which items they make with that ingredient vs regular milk. |
That may be true for their donuts. They definitely don't use powdered milk in their coffee. Regardless, op is asking about actual cheese.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 5:40 pm
Hashem_Yaazor wrote: | BTW there's an additional heter I've heard for Dunkin Donuts due to powdered milk. I don't know which items they make with that ingredient vs regular milk. |
Only the glazed donuts use powdered milk.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 26 2024, 5:42 pm
Molly Weasley wrote: | That may be true for their donuts. They definitely don't use powdered milk in their coffee. Regardless, op is asking about actual cheese. |
The coffee is less problematic. Some locations have cy milk for the coffee. The one near me uses only cy milk.
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