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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 2:02 pm
My dr prescribed cefdinir for shigella for dc. I trust my dr wholeheartedly.
(Or so I think so)I'm just a Googler. Google says that cefdinir is not effective for shigella. Please tell me I'm crazy.
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mummiedearest  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 2:05 pm
In my experience, shigella passes on its own. Good luck, it’s miserable. Disinfect everything often.
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amother
Vermilion


 

Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 2:07 pm
Azithromycin gets rid of shigella really fast
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 2:09 pm
mummiedearest wrote:
In my experience, shigella passes on its own. Good luck, it’s miserable. Disinfect everything often.

Kid is miserable! I was almost in the er last night. I'm so scared to go into shabbos. Diarrhea isn't so often bh but kid is feeling misery with 103 fever. Why couldn't he give me azithromycin??
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 2:09 pm
mummiedearest wrote:
In my experience, shigella passes on its own. Good luck, it’s miserable. Disinfect everything often.

How long does it take? I'm upto day 3 1/2
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amother
Eggplant


 

Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 2:44 pm
We had 103 and terrible body aches for 2 days, then just terrible pain & diarrhea for another 2 days.
Took about 5-6 days to fully disappear.

Unless it's a newborn, 103 isn't dangerous.
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nolacola




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 2:46 pm
I would give antibiotics if you have other kids.. I didn't give my 3 year old antibiotics and he was home for 9 days with it and I was losing my mind washing hands and disinfecting. the fever and vomiting subsided after 1.5 days but the diarrhea took 9 days and it was horrible!
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 2:51 pm
amother OP wrote:
Kid is miserable! I was almost in the er last night. I'm so scared to go into shabbos. Diarrhea isn't so often bh but kid is feeling misery with 103 fever. Why couldn't he give me azithromycin??
So many ways to manage fever and keep kid comfortable until it passes that doesn't involve antibiotics.
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  mummiedearest  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 3:14 pm
amother OP wrote:
How long does it take? I'm upto day 3 1/2


I think it was a week. You’ll need to reculture to be sure it’s gone.
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 3:20 pm
nll1994 wrote:
I would give antibiotics if you have other kids.. I didn't give my 3 year old antibiotics and he was home for 9 days with it and I was losing my mind washing hands and disinfecting. the fever and vomiting subsided after 1.5 days but the diarrhea took 9 days and it was horrible!

3 1/2 days of fever, vomiting and diarrhea. Dc is either crying or lethargic. Dc is bh not dehydrated. Drinking not alot but giving powerade and water. Dc has tears and wet diapers. Diarrhea and vomiting isn't often but when it is it's smells awful awful awful. I feel like admitting dc and myself to the hospital. (Jk)
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 3:21 pm
amother Petunia wrote:
So many ways to manage fever and keep kid comfortable until it passes that doesn't involve antibiotics.

Isn't shigella bacterial? I thought it's very dangerous
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 3:27 pm
We just went through this. Was brutal. Didn’t Medicate because it was over shabbos/yt and was improving. They’re still going to the bathroom a lot more than usual a week later.
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 3:47 pm
I had it Rosh hashana time and I thought I was gonna die. Took zpak and was a new person overnight. I would definitely give antibiotics, why suffer?? Why don’t you call your doctor and ask about the cefdinir vs azythromycin?
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 4:11 pm
amother Mulberry wrote:
I had it Rosh hashana time and I thought I was gonna die. Took zpak and was a new person overnight. I would definitely give antibiotics, why suffer?? Why don’t you call your doctor and ask about the cefdinir vs azythromycin?

Because it's erev shabbos. I hate to bother them on busy days if it's not a matter of life and death so to speak. Maybe I will. I dunno. Just had a good cry to hashem. Hope that will help.
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  mummiedearest




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 5:39 pm
amother OP wrote:
Isn't shigella bacterial? I thought it's very dangerous


It is bacterial, yes. The danger is dehydration, iirc. I was told not to give any anti diarrheal drugs to allow the body to expel the infection. I don’t know that antibiotics would be great in the long run, it would knock out the good bacteria too. Assume everyone in your house will catch it. Disinfect as much as you can as often as you can. Antibiotics will not make the child less contagious.
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 5:40 pm
You need antibiotics to get rid of it. Otherwise it lingers for weeks and months. Do not make your kid suffer for longer.
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 5:45 pm
First line treatments are azithromycin, ciprofloxacin, and ceftriaxone. Unless they did a stool culture with sensitivity that showed resistance or susceptibility that is different than the norm.

Ceftriaxone is an IV only 3rd generation cephalosporin. Cefdinir is an oral 3rd generation cephalosporin. That would mean they have approximately the same action and efficacy.
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 6:15 pm
amother Catmint wrote:
First line treatments are azithromycin, ciprofloxacin, and ceftriaxone. Unless they did a stool culture with sensitivity that showed resistance or susceptibility that is different than the norm.

Ceftriaxone is an IV only 3rd generation cephalosporin. Cefdinir is an oral 3rd generation cephalosporin. That would mean they have approximately the same action and efficacy.

WHO 2023 guidelines actually recommend cipro first line and azithromycin and ceftriaxone second line. Either way it’s fine
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 6:30 pm
amother Peony wrote:
WHO 2023 guidelines actually recommend cipro first line and azithromycin and ceftriaxone second line. Either way it’s fine


My source is epocrates, which is a prescribers resource. I use it for looking up pretty much everything I prescribe if I need a dosage check. It listed all 3 as 1st line. The citations for this are the CDC ID guidelines and IDSA.
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amother
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Post Fri, Jun 14 2024, 6:40 pm
Don't remember which abx specifically, but I had shigella as an adult and it was awful. Please don't make your baby suffer unnecessarily, sort out the treatment and then treat.
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