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 Sun, Nov 19 2023, 4:11 pm
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I was wondering recently, what's the source for these words?
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Blessing1
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Sun, Nov 19 2023, 4:24 pm
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I think that it comes from the words "od avinu chai" that Yosef asked his brothers. Yakov is referred to as Yisroel, the Jewish nation, as well. So it's od avinu chai? Am Yisroel chai!
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Goody2shoes
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Sun, Nov 19 2023, 4:25 pm
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It has no clear origin in the Torah, it became something of a slogan after the horrors of the war and of Soviet Russia.
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Living Princess
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Sun, Nov 19 2023, 4:26 pm
I was wondering myself
possibly Shlomo Carlebach
Last edited by Living Princess on Sun, Nov 19 2023, 4:29 pm; edited 1 time in total
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zaq
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Thu, Dec 14 2023, 5:42 pm
The expression first appears in print in 1881, in the newspaper Hamagid, after the antisemitic pogroms that took place in that year. Carlebach composed the currently popular tune as a sort of anthem for the movement to free Soviet Jews, but the expression previously been set to music many times over and quoted in other songs.
If your Ivrit is good, https://www.ruvik.co.il/%D7%94......aspx is a link to an article that gives the history of the expression and mentions a number of pre-Carlebachian Zionist songs that include it.
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