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jerusalem90  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jan 19 2023, 11:03 pm
If an affluent, social media famous couple adopted kids, raped them, and prostituted them out to others, do you think mainstream media would report it?

When Josh Duggar (former employee for Family Research Council, a conservative Christian lobby group) was caught with child [filth], that was reported everywhere. I remember seeing it on FoxNews and asking "who is Josh Duggar?!"

Have you seen THIS (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2023/01/17/zulock-case-pt-1-n2618219) reported anywhere mainstream?
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hodeez




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jan 19 2023, 11:06 pm
Absolutely disgusting. Wish these degenerates go to jail and get the same treatment they gave their "sons", although I'm assuming they'd enjoy that. Poor poor kids
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icedcoffee




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jan 19 2023, 11:21 pm
It's obviously horrible but I'm not sure why you'd expect it to blow up everywhere like Josh Duggar did. These are random people. You might not have heard of the Duggars but their show is huge; they have millions of viewers. That's why you saw it everywhere. The article you posted is trying to make it seem like this couple is a pair of celebrity influencers but the Instagram account linked has a whopping 500 followers. My mom has more than that. Unfortunately s-xual abuse of children is simply not a rare occurrence. There are many many many stories just like this one happening every single day. It's not front page newsworthy. But it is absolutely terrible of course.
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  jerusalem90  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jan 19 2023, 11:25 pm
I just put "zulock" into Google.

1st result - Zachary Zulock's instagram
2nd - expatguideturkey reporting abuse
3rd Twitter(recently freed) reporting abuse
4th MediaMattersforAmerica (liberal) complaining about Conservatives reporting the case, giving few details of the abuse but being sure to downplay it by adding that "zxual abuse is unnervingly common" -- nothing to see here people, just mean conservatives again.
5th NewYorkPost reporting abuse
6th theDailyWire (conservative) reporting abuse
7th kktv reporting abuse
8th theDailyBeast reporting abuse
9th Townhall (conservative) reporting abuse
10th facebook reporting abuse
11th getoutspoken (conservative) reporting abuse and complaining about gay media's response
12th ancestry.com Zulock name meaning


When I keep scrolling, NBC does have an article reporting the abuse, but I wonder if they somehow deranked it to make it show up after ancestry.com even?
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  jerusalem90  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jan 19 2023, 11:32 pm
icedcoffee wrote:
It's obviously horrible but I'm not sure why you'd expect it to blow up everywhere like Josh Duggar did. These are random people. You might not have heard of the Duggars but their show is huge; they have millions of viewers. That's why you saw it everywhere. The article you posted is trying to make it seem like this couple is a pair of celebrity influencers but the Instagram account linked has a whopping 500 followers. My mom has more than that. Unfortunately s-xual abuse of children is simply not a rare occurrence. There are many many many stories just like this one happening every single day. It's not front page newsworthy. But it is absolutely terrible of course.


I would think that raping your own adopted children and prostituting them out to others would get more attention than owning/viewing child prn.

Also, I may be naive, but while I believe the latter is common and happening every day, I don't believe it's common for people to rape and harlot their own children.
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sequoia




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 4:32 am
jerusalem90 wrote:
I would think that raping your own adopted children and prostituting them out to others would get more attention than owning/viewing child prn.

Also, I may be naive, but while I believe the latter is common and happening every day, I don't believe it's common for people to rape and harlot their own children.


To be fair, Josh Duggar also zexually abused his sisters.
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realtalk  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 6:20 am
jerusalem90 wrote:
I would think that raping your own adopted children and prostituting them out to others would get more attention than owning/viewing child prn.

Also, I may be naive, but while I believe the latter is common and happening every day, I don't believe it's common for people to rape and harlot their own children.


Except Josh Duggar was already famous and specifically famous for being “an upstanding Xtian citizen” He was working in politics when the first scandal broke. He would go around to conventions and preach how to be a better Xtian..

Yes, this story is awful but why should the public specifically care if they don’t know this family at all? Awful things happen every day. There needs to be some specific wow factor for people to want to read about it (it feels yucky to put it that way but it’s true )
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  jerusalem90  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 6:28 am
realtalk wrote:
Except Josh Duggar was already famous and specifically famous for being “an upstanding Xtian citizen” He was working in politics when the first scandal broke. He would go around to conventions and preach how to be a better Xtian..

Yes, this story is awful but why should the public specifically care if they don’t know this family at all? Awful things happen every day. There needs to be some specific wow factor for people to want to read about it (it feels yucky to put it that way but it’s true )


This couple was specifically promoting an ideology that says that you are born with your zxual preferences and have no control over them, and that acting out on your every zxual whim is something you should be PROUD of. They're promoting an ideology that says that exposing young children to zxuality in order to train them to be tolerant of it, is more important than protecting children from zxual exposure that makes them uncomfortable.
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  jerusalem90  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 6:54 am
The more I think about it, the more it bothers me that people's response to this is often "child s-xual abuse is found everywhere, if you live in a glass house, don't throw stones", because the s-xual abuse that is found everywhere is NOT parents making and distributing prnography of themselves raping their children, and selling zx with their children to strangers on the internet. THAT is NOT common.

It's like saying "hey guys, let's not bother talking about the man who stabbed 4 college students to death in their beds in Idaho, because men stab each other in bar fights every day in the US, and it's all just knife violence which is common and happens everywhere".
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rainbow dash




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 7:06 am
jerusalem90 wrote:
I just put "zulock" into Google.

1st result - Zachary Zulock's instagram
2nd - expatguideturkey reporting abuse
3rd Twitter(recently freed) reporting abuse
4th MediaMattersforAmerica (liberal) complaining about Conservatives reporting the case, giving few details of the abuse but being sure to downplay it by adding that "zxual abuse is unnervingly common" -- nothing to see here people, just mean conservatives again.
5th NewYorkPost reporting abuse
6th theDailyWire (conservative) reporting abuse
7th kktv reporting abuse
8th theDailyBeast reporting abuse
9th Townhall (conservative) reporting abuse
10th facebook reporting abuse
11th getoutspoken (conservative) reporting abuse and complaining about gay media's response
12th ancestry.com Zulock name meaning


When I keep scrolling, NBC does have an article reporting the abuse, but I wonder if they somehow deranked it to make it show up after ancestry.com even?


Strange, when I googled the name I got all the articles about what happened.
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DrMom




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 7:13 am
jerusalem90 wrote:
If an affluent, social media famous couple adopted kids, raped them, and prostituted them out to others, do you think mainstream media would report it?

When Josh Duggar (former employee for Family Research Council, a conservative Christian lobby group) was caught with child [filth], that was reported everywhere. I remember seeing it on FoxNews and asking "who is Josh Duggar?!"

Have you seen THIS (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2023/01/17/zulock-case-pt-1-n2618219) reported anywhere mainstream?

They are a same-sx couple (2 men) who adopted and abused 2 primary-school-aged boys. Therefore, it is politically incorrect to say anything negative about them. Might feed "misinformation" or something.
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fmt4  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 7:25 am
jerusalem90 wrote:
If an affluent, social media famous couple adopted kids, raped them, and prostituted them out to others, do you think mainstream media would report it?

When Josh Duggar (former employee for Family Research Council, a conservative Christian lobby group) was caught with child [filth], that was reported everywhere. I remember seeing it on FoxNews and asking "who is Josh Duggar?!"

Have you seen THIS (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2023/01/17/zulock-case-pt-1-n2618219) reported anywhere mainstream?


Why would you call them social media famous? Do you understand what that means? I looked up one of their instagrams and his posts have like 15 likes. Now they have a million hate comments, but before this happened most posts had no comments at all.
It’s very odd to compare this to the Duggars, who had a reality show.
And to answer your question, I found articles about them in the dailybeast and nbc news, both of which are mainstream media.
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GetReal  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 7:26 am
https://nypost.com/2022/08/07/...../amp/
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  fmt4  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 7:28 am
jerusalem90 wrote:
This couple was specifically promoting an ideology that says that you are born with your zxual preferences and have no control over them, and that acting out on your every zxual whim is something you should be PROUD of. They're promoting an ideology that says that exposing young children to zxuality in order to train them to be tolerant of it, is more important than protecting children from zxual exposure that makes them uncomfortable.


Exactly. That’s why it isn’t really that surprising or newsworthy that this would happen, as absolutely horrific as it is. Duggar was promoting the opposite - he was pretending to be s-xually moral and pure, that’s why it was newsworthy - besides for the fact that he was on a reality show and these guys are nobodies.
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  realtalk




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 7:28 am
When Kim Kardashian sneezes it makes headlines. That doesn’t make this case any less awful, just not something that’s going to get as many peoples attention and therefore not going to be as published
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  GetReal




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 7:28 am
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna41917
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  fmt4  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 7:30 am
sequoia wrote:
To be fair, Josh Duggar also zexually abused his sisters.


Right - not sure why the OP keeps on ignoring this.
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  fmt4




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 7:32 am
jerusalem90 wrote:
I would think that raping your own adopted children and prostituting them out to others would get more attention than owning/viewing child prn.

Also, I may be naive, but while I believe the latter is common and happening every day, I don't believe it's common for people to rape and harlot their own children.


You do realize that someone has to be making that child prn… usually a trusted caregiver, as horrible as that is. So as often as there is child prn, there is someone close to the child that is willing to rape and harlot them.
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  jerusalem90




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 8:11 am
fmt4 wrote:
You do realize that someone has to be making that child prn… usually a trusted caregiver, as horrible as that is. So as often as there is child prn, there is someone close to the child that is willing to rape and harlot them.


One person can be evil enough to make child prn, and 1000 people be immoral enough to view it. Many of those 1000 people wouldn't have crossed the line and made it themselves.

I'm saying the viewers are (unfortunately) common, but the makers are rare. It's not a one-to-one relationship where for every viewer there is a maker.
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skirtsandsocks




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 20 2023, 3:56 pm
jerusalem90 wrote:
The more I think about it, the more it bothers me that people's response to this is often "child s-xual abuse is found everywhere, if you live in a glass house, don't throw stones", because the s-xual abuse that is found everywhere is NOT parents making and distributing prnography of themselves raping their children, and selling zx with their children to strangers on the internet. THAT is NOT common.

It's like saying "hey guys, let's not bother talking about the man who stabbed 4 college students to death in their beds in Idaho, because men stab each other in bar fights every day in the US, and it's all just knife violence which is common and happens everywhere".


while this is horrific, I don't know that two victims (two too many of course) counts as a "ring." this article is poorly written and overly inflammatory to come from a news source.

anyway, these things are awful. lots of awful things are reported in the news, but mainstream news focuses on stories that impact MANY people. this, while horrible, doesn't impact the lives of most people who consume mainstream news. so no need to report on it. look at what is covered in respected, mainstream news: it's business, financial, geopolitical conflicts, medical, etc.

I'd also highlight that this situation is very similar to what zev steen of baltimore has done and is charged with. that certainly didn't make any national headlines either, and quite literally is an example of this happening elsewhere.
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