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amother

↑ Tuberose

Thu, Sep 12 2024, 3:06 pm

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If someone has to pay taxes and would rather choose it to go to education, they can up to a certain amount with this initiative.
It cannot be double dipped for charitable donations, but many no longer itemize anymore anyway.

When a significant amount of people pay into this, it gets divided to the stars that will then divide it amongst those who apply for the scholarship.

It's a win win in that you're paying the money anyway, now you can actually control somewhat what it's used for. It costs you nothing more and now private school students can have an ease on their financial burden.

Can you choose which school your taxes will go to? Or will funds be available for any private school-- potentially one out of the community?

↑ Hashem_Yaazor ↓

Thu, Sep 12 2024, 4:49 pm

amother Nemesia wrote:

is that true for vouchers also?

Where?
In Ohio, a private school does have to meet educational standards to be approved for vouchers. They're not super imposing.

↑ Hashem_Yaazor ↓

Thu, Sep 12 2024, 4:50 pm

amother Nemesia wrote:

if you took a poll of the parent body in your school. how many parents would answer in the affirmative that this helped them?

100% who were privileged to get the scholarship.
If the community was more responsive to the push and gave more, we'd give out more.

↑ Hashem_Yaazor ↓

Thu, Sep 12 2024, 4:51 pm

amother Tuberose wrote:

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Can you choose which school your taxes will go to? Or will funds be available for any private school-- potentially one out of the community?

This isn't in the verbiage as far as I can tell.
In Ohio, a school can sign up with an SGO and the tax payer can designate which school or a central bucket and can do multiple contributions to spread between schools.

amother

Brunette

Thu, Sep 12 2024, 5:10 pm

No downside to signing it

amother

↑ Nemesia ↓

Thu, Sep 12 2024, 6:37 pm

Hashem_Yaazor wrote:

100% who were privileged to get the scholarship.
If the community was more responsive to the push and gave more, we'd give out more.

do you know how many parents are actually paying less money in tuition because of this. meaning they are getting a larger scholarship then they were before this went in to affect?

do you know how much money the school has collected from this?

amother

DarkGray

Thu, Sep 12 2024, 7:06 pm

amother Seashell wrote:

I think you're living in la la land.
Especially in Lakewood where most schools tell you that your price for tuition doesn't actually cover the cost.
People will get scholarships and they'll say that really you should have been paying that amount until now so we won't charge you more but we'll pocket the difference.
Those who can't get a scholarship will be forced to pay extra.

Yup, and we have the precedence already set to support our point. When section 8 came to be, many landlords raised their rents with the rationale that if you're getting $1500 from the government and they only raised the rate with $800, you're still saving $700. That caused rents to skyrocket, and really hurt those who didn't have sec 8.

Same with the pre-k program. If you're eligible for it, it's supposed to be 100% free. But the school still demanded a reduced tuition amount. That reduced amount gradually increased every year, where you are now paying a large sum regardless, and the program mostly benefits the schools pocket and not yours.

The same will happen here. It will eventually hurt us, and not help us. The school will direct the money for themselves, with the rationale that it really costs much more to educate a child. And they will raise rates for everyone, with the rationale that the difference can be made up with the scholarship, and if you're not eligible that's your problem, not theirs.

↑ Hashem_Yaazor ↓

Thu, Sep 12 2024, 8:24 pm

amother Nemesia wrote:

Yes and yes

amother

Candycane

Thu, Sep 12 2024, 10:34 pm

Honestly the govt should approve it because they need the private schools to stay open. If non public schools closed down the govt would not have enough infrastructure for all new students.

↑ Hashem_Yaazor ↓

Wed, Sep 18 2024, 7:51 am

This article helps explain some of the open questions. It's 300% of the median income in the area, not the federal poverty level, so many more members of Klal Yisroel would be eligible:
https://mishpacha.com/national.....rdle/

amother

↑ Nemesia

Wed, Sep 18 2024, 8:48 am

let me see if I understand this. if someone makes 130,000. they can get a tax credit for 13,000 in donations? currently in ohio I think it's 750 but it sounded like 10 percent of income?

What's the median income in Cincinnati?

↑ Hashem_Yaazor

Wed, Sep 18 2024, 7:03 pm

It's capped at 5,000.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/...../text

The Ohio state tax credit is 750/person but 1500 for a couple filling jointly.

I don't know the median income nor the definition of what an area entails.

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